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    Dave Troy :toad: (davetroy@toad.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 02:24:51 JST Dave Troy :toad: Dave Troy :toad:

    1/IMPORTANT thread about Bluesky funding and origins. Many folks know that it was seeded by Jack Dorsey around a libertarian vision of a magical network that wouldn’t need moderation because it would be decentralized and baked into a protocol (somehow).

    The people who aided Dorsey in pursuing this vision were other libertarian/post-rationalists connected with effective altruism and other online anarchist movements.

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      Dave Troy :toad: (davetroy@toad.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 02:24:49 JST Dave Troy :toad: Dave Troy :toad:
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      4/🚨It gets worse. Blockchain Capital LLC was co-founded by Steve Bannon pal Brock Pierce, a major crypto advocate, perennial presidential candidate, and close friend of Eric Adams. Pierce has dozens of other shady MAGA/Russia ties as well.
      https://universeodon.com/@cryptadamist/113472115447080382

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        ⚯ Michel de Cryptadamus ⚯ (@cryptadamist@universeodon.com)
        from ⚯ Michel de Cryptadamus ⚯
        Attached: 1 image For some reason people fleeing the sinking #Twitter / #X ship for #BlueSky don't seem to be aware of the fact that crypto bros at #BlockchainCapital bought a huge stake in the company just a few weeks ago. Like these are basically the same crypto bros who just helped #ElonMusk buy Twitter. They might even be literally the same people (I strongly suspect they are but I'm too lazy to check). Either way #BlockchainCapital was co-founded by #BrockPierce, who also brought you #Tether, AKA the company that Trump's transition team chairman manages $120 billion for. Pierce is also a friend of the #Netanyahu family. You don't have to take my word for it. Here's the official press release: https://bsky.social/about/blog/10-24-2024-series-a Moving to BlueSky is not an escape. Growing a base there is just putting in a bunch of work to create a platform that will be co-opted by crypto bros as soon as X breaks in half. p.s. crypto bros (#a16z) also own #Substack #crypto #cryptocurrency #bitcoin #USDT #Trump #DonaldTrump
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      Dave Troy :toad: (davetroy@toad.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 02:24:50 JST Dave Troy :toad: Dave Troy :toad:
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      2/One network called TPOT (‘that part of Twitter’) was instrumental. It carried over into Bluesky’s founding DNA.

      Someone made this visualization in 2023, showing the TPOT/EA network quite clearly. EA as you know is part of TESCREAL and the belief systems that have driven Sam Bankman Fried and Elon Musk. SBF also put money into Musk’s Twitter buy.
      https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/tpot-postrat

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      1. Domain not in remote thumbnail source whitelist: i.kym-cdn.com
        TPOT / PostRat
        from @knowyourmeme
        TPOT or Postrat is a decentralized community mostly on Twitter. TPOT, which stands for "This Part of Twitter," is an acronym used by some to refer to a gro

      2. https://files.toad.social/media_attachments/files/113/476/790/518/918/175/original/171de71e6e137855.png
      Joachim repeated this.
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      Dave Troy :toad: (davetroy@toad.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Nov-2024 02:24:50 JST Dave Troy :toad: Dave Troy :toad:
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      3/Now that Dorsey has bailed as a board member and principal funder, Bluesky’s DNA is basically TPOT people. Who is going to win in that scenario? I don’t know, but I’m not putting money on the users. The most recent funding came from Blockchain Capital LLC...
      https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/5/24149543/jack-dorsey-gone-bluesky-board

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      1. Bluesky confirms Jack Dorsey is no longer on its board
        from Wes Davis
        Bluesky is seeking a replacement that shares its goals.
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      Moss Wizard (moss@beige.party)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 18:56:20 JST Moss Wizard Moss Wizard
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      @davetroy This is all good for people to know, but *please* don’t call these jerks “anarchists” or call it an “online anarchist movement”. They don’t want to be regulated *themselves*, but they are actively trying to subjugate and exploit others, which is anathema to anarchism.

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      Dave Troy :toad: (davetroy@toad.social)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 18:56:21 JST Dave Troy :toad: Dave Troy :toad:
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      8/From Bluesky's press release:
      "[Blockchain's] Kinjal Shah will join our board. Kinjal shares our vision for a social media ecosystem that empowers the people who use it, and we are glad to have her support as we invest in driving the adoption of decentralized social."

      https://bsky.social/about/blog/10-24-2024-series-a

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        Bluesky Announces Series A to Grow Network of 13M+ Users - Bluesky
        Bluesky now exceeds 13 million users, the AT Protocol developer ecosystem continues to grow, and we’ve shipped highly requested features like direct messages and video.
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      Dave Troy :toad: (davetroy@toad.social)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 18:56:21 JST Dave Troy :toad: Dave Troy :toad:
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      9/The company should try to address this by publishing a clear and convincing "trust story" that offers assurances about its funders and their motives, similar to an S-1 prior to an IPO. Creators deserve to have a clear picture so they can decide whether and how to invest. Basic transparency.

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      Dave Troy :toad: (davetroy@toad.social)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 18:56:22 JST Dave Troy :toad: Dave Troy :toad:
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      7/And the next investment they took was from anarchocapitalist cryptobros with ties to Russia? Doesn't add up.

      For those interested, here's the original post I shared here back in 2023 re: the TPOT DNA and origins of the network.
      https://www.easyzoom.com/imageaccess/884cb1c001cd48e79aca92232bd24a04

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        Share huge gigapixel high-resolution images from microscopy, photography, astronomy
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      Dave Troy :toad: (davetroy@toad.social)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 18:56:23 JST Dave Troy :toad: Dave Troy :toad:
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      6/Possibly Bluesky can address this by discussing their funding in detail, the expectations of the funders, and whether the TPOT/PostRat community is still a principal driver of the vision for the "company." But this all points to another rug pull in progress, and a lot of credulous people hurt.

      While it is reasonable that the company acknowledged that Dorsey's vision of "moderation by protocol" was unfeasible, it sets up a highly centralized model that is now subject to capture.

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      Dave Troy :toad: (davetroy@toad.social)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 18:56:24 JST Dave Troy :toad: Dave Troy :toad:
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      5/Eric Adams was a frequent guest on Pierce's jet. Steve Bannon helped Pierce raise $60mm from Goldman Sachs 20 years ago for his "World of Warcraft" mining arbitrage play, Internet Gaming Entertainment. So you probably don't want anything to do with Bluesky long term.
      https://nypost.com/2021/11/23/eric-adams-flew-to-puerto-rico-on-bitcoin-billionaire-jet-report/

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        Eric Adams flew to Puerto Rico on bitcoin billionaire’s private jet
        from @nypmetro
        New York City’s next mayors hitched a ride to San Juan on billionaire Brock Pierce’s private Gulfstream jet alongside his partner Tracey Collins, Politico reported on Tuesday.
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      Moss Wizard (moss@beige.party)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 18:58:05 JST Moss Wizard Moss Wizard
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      @davetroy Anarchism is “no rulers including myself.” Libertarianism (in recent usage) is “no rulers except myself”, with the implication that literally everyone else is just a resource to exploit. A sort of “distributed monarchism” with trade agreements between a million rapacious kinglets.

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      Dave Troy :toad: (davetroy@toad.social)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 18:58:15 JST Dave Troy :toad: Dave Troy :toad:
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      • Moss Wizard

      @Moss yes, and yet they still would consider themselves "anarchocapitalists." You should take this up with them.

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      Rich Puchalsky ⩜⃝ (richpuchalsky@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 18:58:15 JST Rich Puchalsky  ⩜⃝ Rich Puchalsky ⩜⃝
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      • Moss Wizard

      @davetroy

      Anarchists do not consider "anarcho-capitaiists" to be anarchists. All anarchists oppose capitalism, and all anarchism is against all forms of hierarchical control, not just the state's.

      You've created a long thread of people telling you the same thing over and over, none of which was necessary to what you wanted to write. This kind of "anarchists want to destroy the state, and so do warlords, therefore warlords are anarchists" just isn't going to fly on Mastodon.

      @Moss

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      Moss Wizard (moss@beige.party)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 18:58:16 JST Moss Wizard Moss Wizard
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      @davetroy Destroying the state is not the only defining characteristic of anarchism, it is only the most simplistic freshman-level element. The specific right-libertarian people in the specific case of bsky funding are all power-hungry exploiters, not devotees of a narrow historical branch of political philosophy.

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      Dave Troy :toad: (davetroy@toad.social)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 18:58:17 JST Dave Troy :toad: Dave Troy :toad:
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      • Moss Wizard

      @Moss if you're curious, the specific strains I'm referencing is LeFevre-ian voluntarism and autarchy, and Konkinist agorism. Both of them want to dissolve the state, hence they are, by definition, 'anarchists.'

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      Moss Wizard (moss@beige.party)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 18:58:18 JST Moss Wizard Moss Wizard
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      @davetroy I’m sorry but “professional liars misuse terms, so I will too” is not the seat of logic you might have thought it was.

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      Dave Troy :toad: (davetroy@toad.social)'s status on Friday, 15-Nov-2024 18:58:19 JST Dave Troy :toad: Dave Troy :toad:
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      • Moss Wizard

      @Moss yes, I know. But there are a lot of people interpreting those philosophies in ways that suit themselves.

      In conversation about 7 months ago permalink

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