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   nadja (dequbed@mastodon.chaosfield.at)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Nov-2024 05:20:07 JST nadja

   • Kris

   @kris I mean true if you just don't have e2ee for chat rooms it's much easier to never have broken e2ee in chat rooms.

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     Kris (kris@outmo.de)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Nov-2024 05:20:06 JST Kris

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     @dequbed again false, XMPP has e2ee in group chats and it usually works better than on Matrix, but admittedly that is a low bar and hopefully MLS will improve that further in XMPP soon.
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     Kari'boka (kariboka@social.harpia.red)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Nov-2024 05:20:44 JST Kari'boka

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     • Kris

     @dequbed @kris

     Not to mention that OMEMO is pretty bad on the best of days.

     Please elaborate. What bad means?

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     nadja (dequbed@mastodon.chaosfield.at)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Nov-2024 05:20:46 JST nadja

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     • Kris

     @kris yeah no, XMPP does not have e2ee in group chats. It has 'encrypt your message to each recipient with OMEMO individually' in group chats which is laughable to anybody even remotely knowledgeable of cryptography. Not to mention that OMEMO is pretty bad on the best of days.
     But sure sure, MLS will fix everything. Maybe I'll even see it deployed in my lifetime :)