j@mastodon
I know there are jewish people who feel strongly against what the Israeli government is doing.
My post is directed to those people.
And I had to give context to my request, so of course I had to mention the Israeli state. By doing that does am I implying that every Jew is responsible?
Just because someone is of Jewish origin why would they feel obliged to reply? That makes no sense to me.
I say this as a citizen of a former colonial power, I should feel personally guilty?
j@mastodon
The assumption being that there are Jews who do not see the Israeli state as their representative, or see no religious authority for their actions, even being a citizen of the country, the same as me with my own post-colonial state.
j@mastodon
So yes if someone asked me the same question regarding my religious affiliation I would answer, and I have in the past.
You don't have if you don't feel like it.
Richard
@jcast @Nochem Just stop already. You do not understand, or likely do not care, about the many ways you are being offensive. Continue criticizing Israel all day, but don't try and tell Jews what or how to believe, don't expect Jews to be responsible for justifying or condemning Israel (or anything else), don't argue with us about what is offensive to us and what is not, don't single out Jews or Israel for special rules, and don't adopt the language and conspiracies of traditional Jew hatred.
j@mastodon
I don't expect anything from you at this point. Richard that is why I explicitly excluded you from the thread.
I'm just a guy on the internet you don't have to answer just because it mentions Jews.
Some applies to me, my affiliations and identities.
Richard
@jcast @Nochem And don't assume that Jewish opinions about Israel (for or against) are some scriptural matter that you can lecture us on. I have (and I suspect @Nochem has) a range of factors affecting opinions on Israel--political, social, moral, ethical, religious, practical, etc.--and those opinions don't hinge on a facile interpretation of one arcane phrase in the Torah. Give us the benefit of the doubt that we have spent many years thinking about this and have complex opinions about it.
j@mastodon
I don't assume any of that.
I don't judge Jews as a group and I challenge you to point out where I did.
Richard
@jcast @Nochem The idea that you are going to find and unlock some simple biblical quote which will make us stop dead in our tracks stammering with our entire belief system shattered is both laughable and insulting to us.
j@mastodon
At this point just lol
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