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    Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 23:26:02 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow

    Xi Jinping inaugurated his second term with an anti-corruption purge that ran from 2012-2015, resulting in a massive turnover in the power structures of Chinese society.

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    If you'd like an essay-formatted version of this thread to read or share, here's a link to it on pluralistic.net, my surveillance-free, ad-free, tracker-free blog:

    https://pluralistic.net/2024/11/12/the-enemy-of-your-enemy/#is-your-enemy

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 23:26:46 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      At the time, people inside and outside of China believed that Xi was using the crackdown to target his political enemies and consolidate power. Certainly, that was the *effect* of the purge, which paved the way for reforms to Chinese law that have effectively allowed Xi to hold office for life.

      In 2018, Peter Lorentzen (USF Econ) and Xi Lu (NUS Policy) published a paper that used clever empirical methods to get to the bottom of this question:

      https://web.archive.org/web/20181222163946/https://peterlorentzen.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Lorentzen-Lu-Crackdown-Nov-2018-Posted-Version.pdf

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 23:26:57 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      Working from the extensive data-files published during the corruption trials of the purged officials, Lorentzen and Xi Liu were able to estimate the likelihood that an official had really been corrupt. They concluded that overwhelmingly, the anti-corruption purges *did* target corrupt officials, some of them very highly placed.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 23:27:10 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      But when they considered the social graph of those defenestrated officials, they found that they came from blocs that were rivals of Xi Jinping and his circle, while officials who were loyal to Xi Jinping's were spared, even when they were corrupt.

      In other words, Xi Jinping's anticorruption efforts targeted genuinely corrupt officials - but only if they supported Xi's rivals.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 23:27:30 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      Xi's own cronies were exempted from this. Xi *did* use the anticorruption effort to consolidate power, but that doesn't mean he prosecuted the innocent - rather, he selectively prosecuted the guilty.

      Donald Trump will be America's next president. He campaigned against "elites" and won the support of Americans who were rightly furious at being ripped off and abused by big business.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 23:27:40 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      The Biden administration had done much to tackle this corruption, starting with July 2020's 72-point executive order creating a "whole of government" approach to fighting corporate power:

      https://www.eff.org/de/deeplinks/2021/08/party-its-1979-og-antitrust-back-baby

      Trump will have to decide what to do about these efforts. It's easy to say that Trump will just kill them all and let giant, predatory corporations rip, but I think that's wrong.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 23:27:51 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      After all, the Google antitrust case that the DoJ just won *started* under the last Trump administration. Trump also blocked the absolutely terrible merger between Warner and AT&T.

      I think it's safer to say that Trump will *selectively* target businesses for anticorruption enforcement - including antitrust - based on whether they oppose him or suck up to him.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 23:27:59 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      I think American business leaders know it, too, which is why every tech boss lined up to give Trump a public rim-job last week:

      https://daringfireball.net/2024/11/i_wonder

      Trump killed the AT&T-Time Warner merger to punish CNN. He went after Google to punish "woke" tech firms. That doesn't make AT&T, Time Warner or Google good. They're terrible monopolists and the US government *should* be making their lives miserable.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 23:28:11 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      Trump will not need to falsify evidence against corporations that are disloyal to him. *All* of America's big businesses are cesspits of sleaze, fraud and predation. *Every* merger that is being teed up now for the coming four years is illegal under the antitrust laws that we stopped enforcing in the Reagan era and only dusted off again for four years under Biden. They're all guilty, which means that Trump will be able to bring a valid case against any of them.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 23:28:41 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      This will create a trap for people who hate Trump but don't pay close attention to anticorruption cases. It's a trap that Trump sprung successfully in his first term, when he lashed out at the "intelligence community" - the brutal, corrupt, vicious, lawless American spy agencies that are the sworn enemies of working people and the the struggle for justice at home and abroad.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 23:28:48 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      Because Trump hated the "intelligence community," American liberals decided that the enemy of their enemy was their friend, and energetically sold one another James Comey votive candles:

      https://pluralistic.net/2021/12/18/schizmogenesis/

      Over the next four years, Trump will use antitrust and other corruption-taming regulations to selective punish crooked companies. He won't target them because they're crooked: he'll target them because they aren't sufficiently loyal to him.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 23:28:56 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      If you let your hatred of Trump blind you to the crookedness of these companies, you lose and Trump wins. The reason Trump will find it easy to punish these companies is that they are all *guilty*. If you let yourself forget that, if you treat your enemy's enemy as your friend, then Trump will point at his political rivals and call them apologists for corruption and sleaze - and he'll be right.

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      Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 23:29:01 JST Cory Doctorow Cory Doctorow
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      It is possible for Trump to fight corruption corruptly. That's exactly what he'll do. But just because Trump hates these companies, it doesn't follow that we should love them.

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      improper ideologue (thedansimonson@lingo.lol)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Nov-2024 00:11:05 JST improper ideologue improper ideologue
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      @pluralistic i used to watch a lot of SerpentZA—a South African Brit who had emigrated to China—and one of the things he pointed out was that basically everything was illegal, but it was rarely enforced. Only if you were “annoying” would they throw the book at you.

      But if everyone is always breaking the law, they have the legal pretense to arrest anyone they want at any time—that kind of arbitrary violence is the crux of authoritarianism.

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      Pteryx the Puzzle Secretary (pteryx@dice.camp)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Nov-2024 00:11:10 JST Pteryx the Puzzle Secretary Pteryx the Puzzle Secretary
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      @pluralistic I've long worried that this tactic would be used against ordinary citizens too, just with different laws being selectively enforced. Frankly, copyright law as it stands is ideal for this purpose: penalties far, FAR out of proportion to the harms, and widespread flouting of it by ordinary people.

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