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Nicol Wistreich (nicol@social.coop)'s status on Monday, 11-Nov-2024 21:18:32 JST Nicol Wistreich
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@european_alternatives I've been very exited to discover your list - there's some really good stuff on it.
I notice that you only include EEA, EFTA, or DCFTA countries, but not, say, Council of Europe members (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Europe) or the European Political Community (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Political_Community) which both cover Europe comprehensively by including the UK. I can't help but wonder why you'd keep British projects out of the list of 'European alternatives'?
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  Council of Europe
  
  The Council of Europe (CoE; French: Conseil de l'Europe, CdE) is an international organisation with the goal of upholding human rights, democracy and the rule of law in Europe. Founded in 1949, it is Europe's oldest intergovernmental organisation, representing 46 member states, with a population of approximately 675 million as of 2023; it operates with an annual budget of approximately 500 million euros. The organisation is distinct from the European Union (EU), although people sometimes confuse the two organisations – partly because the EU has adopted the original European flag, designed for the Council of Europe in 1955, as well as the European anthem. No country has ever joined the EU without first belonging to the Council of Europe. The Council of Europe is an official United Nations observer. Unlike the EU, the Council of Europe cannot make binding laws; however, the council has produced a number of international treaties, including the Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms (European Convention on Human Rights, ECHR) of 1953. Provisions from the convention are...
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  European Political Community
  
  The European Political Community (EPC) is an intergovernmental forum for political and strategic discussions about the future of Europe, established in 2022 after the Russian invasion of Ukraine. The group first met in October 2022 in Prague, with participants from 44 European countries, as well as the Presidents of the European Council and the European Commission. It is distinct from both the European Union (which is a participant) and the Council of Europe (represented by its Secretary General). History The European Political Community was proposed by the French president Emmanuel Macron at the Conference on the Future of Europe on 9 May 2022 after the Russian invasion of Ukraine, in his role as the president of the Council of the European Union (EU). The President of the European Council, Charles Michel, also put forward a similar proposal for the establishment of a "European geopolitical community". On 23–24 June 2022, formation of the community was agreed to at a meeting of the European Council. On 29 September 2022, the United Kingdom announced that it would participate...
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  Nemo_bis 🌈 (nemobis@mamot.fr)'s status on Monday, 11-Nov-2024 21:18:30 JST Nemo_bis 🌈
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  @nicol #GDPR applies to the EEA (including EU and EFTA). Everyone else is outside. https://www.efta.int/media-resources/news/general-data-protection-regulation-incorporated-eea-agreement
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    General Data Protection Regulation incorporated into the EEA Agreement
    
    The GDPR (EU) 2016/679 entered into force in the EU on 25 May 2018. A lot of work has been undertaken in recent months to ensure its timely incorporation into the EEA Agreement within a framework that allows for a full participation without the right to vote for the EEA EFTA States within the institutional framework established by the regulation.
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  Nemo_bis 🌈 (nemobis@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 00:44:27 JST Nemo_bis 🌈
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  @nicol Sure, the UK currently benefits from an adequacy decision https://commission.europa.eu/law/law-topic/data-protection/international-dimension-data-protection/adequacy-decisions_en thanks to the very similar legislation. But it's still a transfer outside the EU/EEA so it requires extra thinking. Why bother, when there's a supplier completely inside the EU/EEA?
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    Data protection adequacy for non-EU countries
    
    Discover the procedure that allows the European Commission to determine whether a country outside the EU offers an adequate level of data protection.
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  Nicol Wistreich (nicol@social.coop)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 00:44:28 JST Nicol Wistreich
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  @nemobis @european_alternatives I don't follow. The UK implemented GDPR before Brexit, and has no plans to change that (thankfully!): https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/data-protection-and-the-eu/data-protection-and-the-eu-in-detail/the-uk-gdpr/
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    The UK GDPR
    
    This guidance explains data protection at the end of the transition period for leaving the EU in more detail. Read it if you have detailed questions not answered in our other resources, or if you need a deeper understanding of data protection law and how it will change if we do not have adequacy at the end of the transition period.
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  Nemo_bis 🌈 (nemobis@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 05:07:25 JST Nemo_bis 🌈
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  @nicol Yes, the inclusion of the USA is a travesty and will probably be ruled void for the Nth time. https://noyb.eu/en/european-commission-gives-eu-us-data-transfers-third-round-cjeu
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    European Commission gives EU-US data transfers third round at CJEU
    
    European Commission announces third "Safe Harbor", without substantial changes. noyb will bring third adequacy decision back to CJEU.
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  Nicol Wistreich (nicol@social.coop)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 05:07:26 JST Nicol Wistreich
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  @nemobis FWIW ‘adequacy decision’ sounds like an odd kind of gatekeeping if the US is included in that list. The UK designed its GDPR implementation while still a member, which is unique amongst those other countries. In my experience it takes GDPR more seriously than some member states. For e.g. the CiviCRM GDPR extension was developed by a UK company, is maintained by another UK company, is used by many 100s of EU non profits and EU Civi agencies today: https://lab.civicrm.org/extensions/gdpr
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  Nicol Wistreich (nicol@social.coop)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 05:07:27 JST Nicol Wistreich
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  @nemobis ‘why bother’?
  - when it comes to FOSS alternatives is there really so much choice to be exclusive?
  - it’s cost the UK a fair bit to implement GDPR and there’s a lot of folks who’d like to ditch it. Recognising adequacy would help keep it?
  - all my life I’ve know a spirit of cooperation between continental Europe & UK - that continues in FOSS work, literally today for me. Just coz 52% of Brit voters referendumed to leave the EU in one vote seems a sad reason to try to end that.
  
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  Nemo_bis 🌈 (nemobis@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 05:29:55 JST Nemo_bis 🌈
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  @nicol I love that GDPR work in CiviCRM. I've often encouraged orgs I'm involved with to support it. Supporting FLOSS developers across borders is important and necessary even though the paperwork is significant for EU orgs.
  Using services is another matter, because individual rights are involved. (Suitable CiviCRM hosting exists in the EU, AFAIK.)
  It's painful to see the UK and the EU grow apart, but it's the reality we live in. EU students in the UK decreased by 60%! https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7976/
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  Nemo_bis 🌈 (nemobis@mamot.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 14:51:04 JST Nemo_bis 🌈
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  @nicol I agree!
  
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  Nicol Wistreich (nicol@social.coop)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 14:51:05 JST Nicol Wistreich
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  @nemobis imho, while tragic it’s still a fluid relationship, bigger than a vote, treaty or trade deficit. It’s defined ultimately by the people in both places, as it has for millennia.
  FLOSS tho seems a model for stateless collaboration that both the UK and EU could learn something from.
  
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