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    Arne Babenhauserheide (arnebab@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Monday, 11-Nov-2024 16:10:11 JST Arne Babenhauserheide Arne Babenhauserheide

    JD Vance "is Thiel’s creature", so personalized mass-surveillance just started its way into the White House.¹

    If you’re not a Trumpist, you can be sure that all your non-confidential communication will be analyzed and used against you, so use the remaining month you have to setup confidential communication with your friends.

    Signal may suffice for the start, but if you want confidential metadata, you may want to run and connect Hyphanet now:
    https://www.hyphanet.org/pages/download.html

    ¹ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/20/tech-broligarchs-court-trump-vance-elon-musk-peter-thiel

    In conversation Monday, 11-Nov-2024 16:10:11 JST from rollenspiel.social permalink

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      Tech broligarchs are lining up to court Trump. And Vance is one more link in the chain
      from https://www.theguardian.com/profile/carolecadwalladr
      Elon Musk and Peter Thiel, a longtime backer of the new vice-president pick, are among those pledging support
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      Arne Babenhauserheide (arnebab@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Monday, 11-Nov-2024 18:27:53 JST Arne Babenhauserheide Arne Babenhauserheide
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      • Dieu

      @hllizi It *is* Freenet, but we¹ were forced to rename because the original creator of the project decided to take the name for his new pet that doesn’t have privacy as its goal.

      See https://www.hyphanet.org/freenet-renamed-to-hyphanet.html

      ¹ the people actually working on the project, doing releases and so on, but not sitting in the board of the non-profit. See the archived mailing list thread linked in the article if you want to know why along with the renaming also separated completely from FPI now.

      In conversation Monday, 11-Nov-2024 18:27:53 JST permalink

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      Dieu (hllizi@hespere.de)'s status on Monday, 11-Nov-2024 18:27:54 JST Dieu Dieu
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      @ArneBab Sounds a lot like freenet, are there major differences?

      In conversation Monday, 11-Nov-2024 18:27:54 JST permalink
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      Arne Babenhauserheide (arnebab@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Monday, 11-Nov-2024 18:55:09 JST Arne Babenhauserheide Arne Babenhauserheide
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      • Dieu

      @hllizi Takeaway for other projects: make sure that the "governing structure" (access to keys, domains, and such) does not deviate too much from the group of people doing the actual work.

      He’d been separate from the project for a good decade, only doing bureaucratic stuff (filing finances of the non-profit) and when he decided to get active again it was "this all sucks, we’re doing this new thing again" — without knowing what the project was capable of (when I showed him, that became clear).

      In conversation Monday, 11-Nov-2024 18:55:09 JST permalink
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      Arne Babenhauserheide (arnebab@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Monday, 11-Nov-2024 18:55:10 JST Arne Babenhauserheide Arne Babenhauserheide
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      • Dieu

      @hllizi In the mailing list he said that he thinks democracy does not work for a project, so it’s pretty likely that he’s a Trumpist now — we have no more contact.

      As a personal rant:
      Such stuff is pretty high on the list of things you don’t want to deal with when you’re voluntary dev and release-manager of a project.

      Together with all the problems that came along with that, it occupied at least half a year of my free time.

      But it’s done since the release of 1498 and we’re moving forward.

      In conversation Monday, 11-Nov-2024 18:55:10 JST permalink

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      Dieu (hllizi@hespere.de)'s status on Monday, 11-Nov-2024 18:55:12 JST Dieu Dieu
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      @ArneBab ah, that's interesting and good to hear. Didn't the creator end up as a Trumpist?

      In conversation Monday, 11-Nov-2024 18:55:12 JST permalink
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      Arne Babenhauserheide (arnebab@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Monday, 11-Nov-2024 21:00:48 JST Arne Babenhauserheide Arne Babenhauserheide
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      • Dieu

      @hllizi (as first step to regain that we need to add validation for webm and vp8 — we already have vorbis; with vp8 instead of theora quality should actually get much better)

      In conversation Monday, 11-Nov-2024 21:00:48 JST permalink
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      Arne Babenhauserheide (arnebab@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Monday, 11-Nov-2024 21:00:49 JST Arne Babenhauserheide Arne Babenhauserheide
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      • Dieu

      @hllizi concrete example: he did not know that Freenet (now Hyphanet) already supported video on demand two years ago. That people were actively watching music videos on that fully decentralized, privacy preserving system.

      Not in perfect quality, but good enough that most music videos were enjoyable. Conference talks and similar were no problem at all.

      (currently that’s broken, because Mozilla removed Theora from Firefox and we need to validate data so the browser doesn’t leak private info)

      In conversation Monday, 11-Nov-2024 21:00:49 JST permalink
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      Arne Babenhauserheide (arnebab@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 01:23:44 JST Arne Babenhauserheide Arne Babenhauserheide
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      • Dieu
      • kami_kadse

      @kami_kadse You’re welcome ☺

      Please write if you run into any problems.
      @hllizi

      In conversation Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 01:23:44 JST permalink
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      kami_kadse (kami_kadse@don.linxx.net)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 01:23:46 JST kami_kadse kami_kadse
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      • Dieu

      @ArneBab @hllizi

      nice! I tried freenet before Tor became a major thing, and I'm very glad it's still around. I'll give it another shot

      In conversation Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 01:23:46 JST permalink
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      Arne Babenhauserheide (arnebab@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 01:55:25 JST Arne Babenhauserheide Arne Babenhauserheide
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      • Dieu
      • kami_kadse

      @hllizi It is a local server, but if it only runs during usage, it also works. Though for example the Sone microblogging is more efficient if it runs over a longer time.

      Typically it should work well 1-3 minutes after starting the local server.
      @kami_kadse

      In conversation Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 01:55:25 JST permalink
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      Dieu (hllizi@hespere.de)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 01:55:27 JST Dieu Dieu
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      • kami_kadse

      @ArneBab @kami_kadse think I'm also going to set it up. But iirc it only really makes sense if you run a local server, right?

      In conversation Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 01:55:27 JST permalink
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      Arne Babenhauserheide (arnebab@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 02:08:53 JST Arne Babenhauserheide Arne Babenhauserheide
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      • Dieu
      • kami_kadse

      @hllizi If you want to test the video on demand, you’ll need a Firefox before 130 (i.e. the current ESR version — 128) to still have Theora support.

      Example for that:
      USK@rQnuHCVpf7BHcsZHBt911K3-iaELN1u1Vg0fzxDRq7k,I1vFYWONhGfECHr9XD-1lKxxstr64rF4dTykcMq9swY,AQACAAE/gms/36/
      @kami_kadse

      In conversation Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 02:08:53 JST permalink
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      Arne Babenhauserheide (arnebab@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 02:12:37 JST Arne Babenhauserheide Arne Babenhauserheide
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      • Dieu
      • kami_kadse

      @hllizi Once it has at least 10 connections, performance should be pretty solid.

      It works with 5, but the difference between 5 and 10 is huge. 20 peers is still much faster than 10, but I consider 10 peers to be the level from which it starts being nice to use.

      @kami_kadse

      In conversation Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 02:12:37 JST permalink

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      Dieu (hllizi@hespere.de)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 02:12:39 JST Dieu Dieu
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      • kami_kadse

      @ArneBab @kami_kadse ah, I thought performance was severely reduced if it isn't kept live constantly. Thanks!

      In conversation Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 02:12:39 JST permalink
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      Arne Babenhauserheide (arnebab@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 02:17:13 JST Arne Babenhauserheide Arne Babenhauserheide
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      • Dieu
      • kami_kadse

      @hllizi It usually connects pretty quickly if you don’t restart several times per hour — I think there’s some blocking if you try to re-connect too frequently.

      There’s efficient entry into the network via seednodes that search for your ID to find the nodes to connect to to get good routing.
      @kami_kadse

      In conversation Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 02:17:13 JST permalink
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      Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br) (lxo@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 03:07:19 JST Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br) Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)
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      Mozilla removed Theora from Firefox

      oh, so that's what broke Internet Banking token-based authentication for me with abrowser 131. thank you (not), Mozilla!
      In conversation Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 03:07:19 JST permalink
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      Arne Babenhauserheide (arnebab@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 03:12:32 JST Arne Babenhauserheide Arne Babenhauserheide
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      • Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)

      @lxo removing Theora support broke token-based authentication? What did they test for?

      In conversation Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 03:12:32 JST permalink
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      Arne Babenhauserheide (arnebab@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 03:14:55 JST Arne Babenhauserheide Arne Babenhauserheide
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      • Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)

      @lxo you could re-open this bug report: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1921407

      The one saying won’t fix is the one who removed Theora support who works on real time audio and says that it’s good to have ogg only for audio.

      That seems like a sub-optimal process.

      In conversation Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 03:14:55 JST permalink

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        Sorry, I can't find "1921407The". It does not seem like bug number nor an alias to a bug.
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      Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br) (lxo@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 03:34:36 JST Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br) Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)
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      the token has an optical sensor to receive a light-coded encrypted OTP from the browser, and the message is encoded (and used to be displayed) as a tiny ogg/theora base64-embedded video
      In conversation Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 03:34:36 JST permalink
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      Arne Babenhauserheide (arnebab@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 06:32:18 JST Arne Babenhauserheide Arne Babenhauserheide
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      • Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)

      @lxo so much for "isn’t used anyway"

      The first to break it was Google, then Mozilla said "we’re the only implementation left, let’s remove it, too".

      Google to "reduce exposure to codec risks" — so I get it that we’ll soon have broken GIF, too … (sorry, I’m a bit annoyed. A tiny bit).

      In conversation Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 06:32:18 JST permalink
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      Arne Babenhauserheide (arnebab@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 06:33:11 JST Arne Babenhauserheide Arne Babenhauserheide
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      • Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)

      @lxo See the references in my bug report:
      https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1921407

      ⇒ the plan: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1860492#c0

      ⇒ another bug report: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1918930

      Their suggestion to cope with that: ask websites to ship a non-standard player with emscripten-compiled javascript:
      https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1921407#c6

      In conversation Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 06:33:11 JST permalink

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      1. Domain not in remote thumbnail source whitelist: bugzilla.mozilla.org
        1921407 - Theora removal in Firefox 130 breaks all video streaming in Freenet / Hyphanet
        RESOLVED (nobody) in Core - Audio/Video: Playback. Last updated 2024-10-02.
      2. Domain not in remote thumbnail source whitelist: bugzilla.mozilla.org
        1860492 - Investigate removing Theora support
        RESOLVED (padenot) in Core - Audio/Video: Playback. Last updated 2024-10-22.
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        Sorry, I can't find "1918930Their". It does not seem like bug number nor an alias to a bug.
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        1921407 - Theora removal in Firefox 130 breaks all video streaming in Freenet / Hyphanet
        RESOLVED (nobody) in Core - Audio/Video: Playback. Last updated 2024-10-02.
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      Arne Babenhauserheide (arnebab@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 06:36:57 JST Arne Babenhauserheide Arne Babenhauserheide
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      • Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)

      @lxo Their workaround might actually fix your problem, but I’m still pissed that they remove working codecs that are web standards.

      As far as I know, killing Theora is the first time a web standard codec got removed.

      In conversation Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 06:36:57 JST permalink

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      Arne Babenhauserheide (arnebab@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 06:40:15 JST Arne Babenhauserheide Arne Babenhauserheide
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      • Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)

      @lxo To add insult to injury, in their plan they write

      "if all is fine (and it's probably going to be just fine)" — but they never tested on an actual release. Only on beta versions.

      And once they hit the actual release, bug reports came in at once.

      But it’s going to be just fine …

      @mozilla

      In conversation Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 06:40:15 JST permalink
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      Arne Babenhauserheide (arnebab@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 06:41:25 JST Arne Babenhauserheide Arne Babenhauserheide
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      • Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)

      @lxo here’s another recent bug, with "fix-optional", so you creating one more bug for the OTP may actually be significant:

      https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1924070

      In conversation Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 06:41:25 JST permalink
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      Arne Babenhauserheide (arnebab@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 06:47:44 JST Arne Babenhauserheide Arne Babenhauserheide
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      • Dieu
      • kami_kadse

      @kami_kadse Thank you for the info!

      One simple thing to try: create a Sharesite. That should make it really easy to have your own place there.
      @hllizi

      In conversation Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 06:47:44 JST permalink
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      kami_kadse (kami_kadse@don.linxx.net)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 06:47:45 JST kami_kadse kami_kadse
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      • Dieu

      @ArneBab @hllizi

      there was no prob installing it, I'm currently randomly browsing stuff. I really like the barebones html aesthetics of most of the sites, sometimes some limitations are a good thing...

      In conversation Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 06:47:45 JST permalink
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      Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br) (lxo@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 08:21:40 JST Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br) Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)
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      https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1930548
      In conversation Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 08:21:40 JST permalink

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        1930548 - Santander Brazil Internet Banking relies on (now removed) ogg/theora videos for OTP
        UNCONFIRMED (nobody) in Firefox - General. Last updated 2024-11-11.
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      Arne Babenhauserheide (arnebab@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 15:00:22 JST Arne Babenhauserheide Arne Babenhauserheide
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      • Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)

      @lxo Thank you!

      In conversation Tuesday, 12-Nov-2024 15:00:22 JST permalink
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