Jens Finkhäuser
... discussions on that topic which try to disambiguate a bit what that means. In the years before, it felt more like the different views on centralization led to arguments around whether the problem was more economic or political versus technical.
The view that seems to be emerging is that it's both, and we need to understand how technology and politics influence each other here. I think that is very hopeful! Because at least a fair number of people now have left behind the knee-jerk...
Jens Finkhäuser
... promote human rights protections in tech, I was quoted by the chairs. I wrote about only one the other day, but then the other also happened.
It makes me hopeful that efforts such as @interpeer can make some traction, because we do try to address both issues here (and they have some interaction).
Still, the downside of this is that it was made very clear to me yet again that IETF is not ready for taking this kind of work onboard *yet*. Both groups are research groups in the sister org...
Jens Finkhäuser
... capture the risks here at all, while persona modelling with its focus on the individuals can. This can then also be used much better to address the risks of tech in these situations, and further speak to engineers better.
IETF as a whole moves like a slow ship, but this seems like a good shift in perspective that is working its way through the organization.
So it came as a pleasant surprise that both in DINRG where people try to promote decentralization, and HRPC where people try to...
Jens Finkhäuser
... tech (such as @librecast or @interpeer ).
The second interesting thing is that folk are trying to work out how to do persona modelling as part of threat modelling, because in threat modelling the focus has mostly been on protecting organizations from outside attacks.
Persona modelling is necessary for IPV because of that I - the perpetrator and victim are intimate (not necessarily in the sexual sense), and so within the same organization (family, etc). Traditional threat modelling cannot..
Jens Finkhäuser
The two key takeaways I have from that, which I think are excellent, is a) IPV as a specific type of human rights violation is a topic that still needs to land in people's head on all sides. A lot of the time, human rights seem to be treated as relating to state level actors, whilst IPV is a personal matter.
The interesting part here is that in my estimate, the focus on IPV and tech now actually seems to help engineers understand better what people mean when they talk about human rights and...
Jens Finkhäuser
... reaction of "not wanting to politicize tech". More now accept that the interaction exists, and that we can shape tech somewhat to help or hinder certain political developments.
The human rights policy considerations group may not have much direct influence on many protocol designers, but I feel they have paved the way with the guidance they issued for taking certain effects into consideration.
They're now focused on the more specific interaction between tech and intimate partner violence.
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