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   ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭ (radical_egocom@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 07:01:38 JST ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭

   Everyone who convinced people not to vote for Harris because she supports Israel is partially responsible for Trump becoming president. You were given the Trolly Problem, and you refused to pull the lever and let the five people die instead of pulling it and having it run over the one person on the other track. Either way, someone was going to get ran over, and you could have made the unfortunate situation a little better but instead decided to do nothing.

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     SinnPi (sinnpi@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 07:10:10 JST SinnPi

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     @Radical_EgoCom except that this lever actually doubled the trolly so it just runs over both tracks now.

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     ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭ (radical_egocom@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 07:13:21 JST ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭

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     @SinnPi

     What I'm saying is that if Harris were elected, people still would have been hurt, but fewer people would have been hurt with her as president than with Trump as president.

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     SinnPi (sinnpi@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 07:18:16 JST SinnPi

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     @Radical_EgoCom I agree. I’m saying that by Americans electing Trump, both tracks now have a trolly killing people, instead of just the lesser track.

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     paul is not paranoid ☭ 🇵🇸 (prgauthier@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 10:00:33 JST paul is not paranoid ☭ 🇵🇸

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     @Radical_EgoCom I'm not American. I'm repeating the zeitgeist among my American comrades, though.

     *Genocide is a red line and voting for a literal fascist isn't going to happen.*

     I lied. We do care, a little. We're *glad* the architects of the Palestinian genocide were punished at the polls.

     Meanwhile, holding people who refused to endorse genocide responsible for Trump and not the perpetrators of the genocide themselves is a very strange take -- especially for a historical materialist.

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     ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭ (radical_egocom@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 10:03:44 JST ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭

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     @prgauthier

     I blame both the democrats for not having a good enough platform and the millions of people who refused to vote for Harris and, in turn, made Trump win through their inaction.

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     paul is not paranoid ☭ 🇵🇸 (prgauthier@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 10:09:45 JST paul is not paranoid ☭ 🇵🇸

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     @Radical_EgoCom This is the wrong focus. "This bourgeois party said... That bourgeois party said...." The salient point is that they're both bourgeois parties and *neither* has anything to offer the working class other than slightly different textures of oppression.

     Dual power or gtfo.

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     ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭ (radical_egocom@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 10:12:42 JST ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭

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     @prgauthier

     One of the parties was running on a platform of borderline fascism, and the other was running on a platform of the status quo. It is apparent to anyone with a brain that fascism is worse than the current status quo, as horrible as it is.

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     gray (graythehue@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 10:42:33 JST gray

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     @Radical_EgoCom Hard agree. The number of leftists, albeit good-intentioned, who won't do *something*, is a plague. We are all complicit. They can either attempt to reduce harm or fuck off.

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     paul is not paranoid ☭ 🇵🇸 (prgauthier@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 16:07:33 JST paul is not paranoid ☭ 🇵🇸

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     @Radical_EgoCom The status quo *is* fascism *headdesk*

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     ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭ (radical_egocom@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 20:15:19 JST ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭

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     @prgauthier

     Do you not know what the hell fascism is? Do you think that "capitalism doing really bad things" = "fascism?"

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     paul is not paranoid ☭ 🇵🇸 (prgauthier@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 20:23:26 JST paul is not paranoid ☭ 🇵🇸

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     @Radical_EgoCom You don't sound like someone who's done street level activism, or been part of or worked with marginalised communities. You don't sound line someone who's dealt with cops in the streets or lawfare in the courts. You don't sound like you live in a jurisdiction where criticising Israel is subject to criminal prosecution. You don't seem to know about Richard Medhurst.

     You're wasting my time.

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     ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭ (radical_egocom@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 20:26:05 JST ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭

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     @prgauthier

     So you do think that fascism is "when capitalism does really bad things?" It seems like you had very horrible experiences under capitalism and then mislabeled those experiences "fascism."

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     Chris McCabe (cablest@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 20:26:33 JST Chris McCabe

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     @Radical_EgoCom Ppl found it hard to support Good Guys for Genocide - the Dems had the option of not enabling murder & ethnic cleansing.

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     ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭ (radical_egocom@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 20:28:58 JST ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭

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     Yeah, people placed their feelings over what was the most practical course of action to take to prevent Trump from becoming president.