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   Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@octodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 01:23:38 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber

   > Data in the Atmosphere is stored on users' personal repos. It's almost like each user has their own website. Our goal is to aggregate data from the users into our SQLite DB.
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   > Think of our app like a Google.

   https://atproto.com/guides/applications

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     Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@octodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 01:26:57 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     Okay so blogs are decentralized, and the web is decentralized, but is Google decentralized? I'm really flummoxed by the choice to self-describe as being architecturally closer to a search engine and especially Google, that seems like a heck of a self-condemnation

     How many major search engines of the web are used, in practice? 2: Bing and Google

     This isn't very reassuring if you care about decentralization?

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     Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@octodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 01:32:29 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     @Claire well search engines aren't as much hard to build as they are hard to host at scale and solve the incentive challenges that happen at scale

     a small-scale search engine of the web is pretty easy, trivial even

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     Clairement crevée (claire@social.sitedethib.com)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 01:32:33 JST Clairement crevée

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     @cwebber i'd say the specifics of the core job of the Bluesky Relay + AppView are easier to design and replicate than a search engine

     but they're still very materially expensive, and i'm not sure there are incentives to match that expense

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     Thiago, Cavalheiro Jedi (jedi@bolha.us)'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 20:23:18 JST Thiago, Cavalheiro Jedi

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     @cwebber Yeah, I think you are completely right about comparing it with search engines. At least, this seems to be the expectation of BlueSky itself.

     From BlueSky's blog:

     "The federation architecture allows anyone to host a Relay, though it’s a fairly resource-demanding service. In all likelihood, there may be a few large full-network providers, and then a long tail of partial-network providers. Small bespoke Relays could also service tightly or well-defined slices of the network, like a specific new application or a small community."

     https://bsky.social/about/blog/5-5-2023-federation-architecture