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   mhoye (mhoye@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Nov-2024 00:45:27 JST mhoye

   Imagine an ad for Pepsi whose main message was, "It's good if you mix it with Coke".

   Imagine a world where a third of the market is looking for some other better option, and that's your pitch.

   I think I think https://hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/113296098233486301 is probably right, that this is where it went wrong.

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     esmevane, sorry (ironchamber@mastodon.esmevane.com)'s status on Friday, 08-Nov-2024 00:45:26 JST esmevane, sorry

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     @mhoye @owillis1977 was saying it from the very beginning. It worried me the whole time because it makes so much sense.

     The truth is that it was very conscious and a HUGE collective of centrist consultants waylaid Harris and started putting constant pressure on her to do this. She was clearly given advice and the advice was to listen to them.

     Her mistake was listening to those dipshits and I don't know how we could've gotten through to her, when so many people were saying it so damn loudly

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     Rich Puchalsky ⩜⃝ (richpuchalsky@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Nov-2024 01:13:33 JST Rich Puchalsky ⩜⃝

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     • esmevane, sorry

     @ironchamber

     "she was waylaid by consultants" she is an adult, with developed political beliefs and understanding (she's the Vice President) and she made her own decision. That decision was in keeping with everything else that we know about her and her past history.

     @mhoye @owillis1977

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     esmevane, sorry (ironchamber@mastodon.esmevane.com)'s status on Friday, 08-Nov-2024 01:13:33 JST esmevane, sorry

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     • Rich Puchalsky ⩜⃝

     @richpuchalsky @mhoye @owillis1977

     Listen, I'm not saying she's without fault,
     I'm saying there's absolutely a concerted machine there and it didn't lose any power after election day. It's entrenched.

     It's people like Carville, specific people with names, and they will keep doing it. He's got no self-awareness about what he did that I know of.

     Is the topic we're talking about "why do we keep mixing coke & pepsi" or is it not? Because I'm saying this is one big reason why it keeps happening.