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   Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Saturday, 02-Nov-2024 21:50:05 JST Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

   Solid State Batteries will reach mass production in the next 2-3 years, lowering the price for electricity storage to (far) below €100/kWh while also offering more safety. US and European firms are however not part of this upcoming megamarket, because we prefer to waste our energy (pun intended) and money on glorified autocorrect solutions and deepfake (moving) pix. #SarcasmButOnlyHalf 1/n

   Graph source: https://www.pv-magazine.com/2024/11/01/solid-state-batteries-enter-pilot-production-costs-expected-to-drastically-drop/

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     Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Saturday, 02-Nov-2024 22:05:04 JST Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

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     Combined with the impressive downward curve of cost for battery storage in general, this WILL lead to something the big power companies really fear: decentralised, local grids. With renewables and storage combined in ways, when done right, that gets us to effectively free electricity for private households. See you at #FOSDEM in the devroom on Energy Transition with open source and open standards? Let’s build the Fedigrid! https://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/fosdem/2024q4/003573.html 2/n

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     Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Saturday, 02-Nov-2024 22:17:58 JST Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

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     The big markets for these decentralised, federating grids will however not be in Europe. Think Africa, South America. Where renewables will be used to create power grids that simply don’t exist yet. Converting existing grids, like here in Europe, opens a giant can of worms. 3/n

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     Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Saturday, 02-Nov-2024 22:22:35 JST Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

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     But we have a big opportunity here in Europe, IMHO, the brains and tools to help define an open infrastructure for these new grids. To avoid this becoming another oligopoly. Take Software Freedom principles to create Energy Freedom. That’s going to be the next frontier, IMHO. Open standards, open hardware, open protocols, open source for energy production, storage and distribution. 4/n

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     F.A. Suwijn (ratanashi@mastodon.nl)'s status on Saturday, 02-Nov-2024 22:31:09 JST F.A. Suwijn

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     @jwildeboer The devil is in the detail, i.e. in the last sentence of the article.

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     Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Saturday, 02-Nov-2024 22:35:28 JST Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

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     I’ve been talking about this for some years now. And I am very happy to see that more and more people share similar thoughts and there now is a dedicated devroom at #FOSDEM for this. I am NOT involved in that, BTW. And that’s just the way I like it! Ideas are bigger than people, so I am looking forward to learn from far more involved people about all the other things I can’t even imagine that are defining in this field! 5/5

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     tbones (tbones@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Saturday, 02-Nov-2024 23:07:57 JST tbones

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     @jwildeboer Does anyone know what's the state of the predecessor technology sodium battery at #Northvolt? AFAIK the only european company with R&D in this field.

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     Shortman (shortman@sueden.social)'s status on Saturday, 02-Nov-2024 23:28:58 JST Shortman

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     @jwildeboer sind wir nicht längst unter 100$?

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     Chris Laprun (metacosm@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 03-Nov-2024 01:47:23 JST Chris Laprun

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     @jwildeboer you may be a dreamer, my kind sir!

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     Rob Hooft (rwwh@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 03-Nov-2024 20:49:50 JST Rob Hooft

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     @jwildeboer market price may be 100 euro per kWh for the battery pack, but a representative home battery costs 3500 + 200 euro per kWh and lasts 6000 cycles. That does not yet sound like “free” energy to me.