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   Jarkko Sakkinen (jarkko@social.kernel.org)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 09:07:49 JST Jarkko Sakkinen
   After having to use Matrix for a while and seeing how bad Slack and Discord are, I wish there was a criminal law that would allow IRC only for IM. Steady performer, zero fucks. #IRC
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     Kari'boka (kariboka@social.harpia.red)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 09:08:21 JST Kari'boka

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     • Aks :quake_verified:​ :kde:
     @aks @jarkko xmpp is a good option
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     Aks :quake_verified:​ :kde: (aks@scalie.zone)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 09:08:22 JST Aks :quake_verified:​ :kde:

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     @jarkko sadly irc fails if i want to paste a code block to the chat, or any other modern features

     I agreee with the matrix security bs though

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     Jarkko Sakkinen (jarkko@social.kernel.org)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 09:08:23 JST Jarkko Sakkinen

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     I miss the 90s, IRC and Polish hacking groups bombing IRCNet with regular netsplits :-) And who needs security when you have OTR (innovation from 2004).
     
     In software security a protocol built without security is easier to guard than a protocol with "security features". IRC has this right too. I feel that this some annual thing to praise the IRC and hate the world 🤷
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     Jarkko Sakkinen (jarkko@social.kernel.org)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 09:08:23 JST Jarkko Sakkinen

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     E.g. I get room keys as a security feature. I did read the Matrix spec. But IRL I find myself carrying USB stick from computer to another in order to have anything readable if a room is encrypted. I.e. I can either use recovery key or authorization request to activate a client but it gets you only hafl-way there.
     
     This makes me feel that UX was designed to fit the security features and not other way around. And if you talk to a Matrix cult member they will say to you that you're not getting it.
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     Jarkko Sakkinen (jarkko@social.kernel.org)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2024 09:08:24 JST Jarkko Sakkinen

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     I need to visit local museum and go to see the first IRC server and ask for guidance in this misguided world (the first ever is 400 m away from my home door, i.e. living at a holy place).