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   :segasaturn: (takao@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 26-Oct-2024 00:26:50 JST :segasaturn:
   Wow!
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 26-Oct-2024 00:26:49 JST Lina Inver?e

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     @takao nah i dont believe that works
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 26-Oct-2024 00:32:10 JST Lina Inver?e

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     @takao yeah that stance won't work in russian subways, especially when the train car is also stuffed to the gills
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     :segasaturn: (takao@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 26-Oct-2024 00:32:11 JST :segasaturn:

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     @lina admittedly, Mariko is a black belt third dan and trains in Japanland are quite smooth.

     It's a shame she's married, really.

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     :segasaturn: (takao@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 26-Oct-2024 00:46:58 JST :segasaturn:

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     • Lina Inver?e
     @lina wouldn't work on trams over here either. Maybe with some Pesas but Konstal trams are no go since they accelerate and brake abruptly. Pic related, Konstal 105Na in Kraków's livery, pic by Igor123121 under CC BY-SA 4.0 loicence.
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 26-Oct-2024 00:47:03 JST Lina Inver?e

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     @takao thanks Igor123121
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 26-Oct-2024 00:55:32 JST Lina Inver?e

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     @takao real, i do like old stuff more, it has more sovl, AC be damned it makes zero difference when the operator of the passenger vehicle doesnt even care about it and never adjusts it so you still smell sweat
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     :segasaturn: (takao@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 26-Oct-2024 00:55:33 JST :segasaturn:

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     • Lina Inver?e
     @lina FYI Konstals are using more or less the same tech as Americans' PCC, which is super old; pre-war there were plans to loicence it from them but post-war the design was reverse engineered and directly copied from inspired by units graciously handed over by the Czechoslovaks with liberal use of political pressure and threats, who held an actual loicence. They were modernised a few times but fundamentally they're still the same.
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     :segasaturn: (takao@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 26-Oct-2024 01:05:20 JST :segasaturn:

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     • Lina Inver?e
     @lina i like them too. Pesas, which are gradually replacing Konstals, may be more comfortable but the way they're arranged inside is bothering me. Compare the straight and sensibly, symmetrically placed seats made from easily washable hard material (perfect for washing away pee of some drunk bum who sat in it) vs. the illogically angled seats in a Pesa Swing.
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 26-Oct-2024 01:05:20 JST Lina Inver?e

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     @takao what the fuck are those seats lol thats so much wasted space
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     :segasaturn: (takao@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 26-Oct-2024 01:18:51 JST :segasaturn:

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     • Lina Inver?e
     @lina let's compare capacity and size. A Konstal 105Na wagon was rated for 20 seats and 105 standing places, it was 13.5m long and 2.4m wide, usually ran in configuration of two coupled wagons (non-articulated so they were separate units) so you could double that for easier comparison. A Pesa Swing is 30.12m long and 2.35m wide, with articulated body. Its total capacity is 40 seats and only 161 standing places. Subtract a few of those seats too as it has foldable jumpseats in the cripple/kiddy stroller areas and it's kind of pathetic. You can't comfortably stand next to the angled seats either since people tend to be assholes and not bother compressing their legs.
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 26-Oct-2024 01:19:48 JST Lina Inver?e

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     @takao >at almost double the length it has only 59 more standing places and 20 more seats
     how
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     :segasaturn: (takao@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 26-Oct-2024 01:29:48 JST :segasaturn:

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     @lina
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 26-Oct-2024 01:29:48 JST Lina Inver?e

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     @takao what the fuck is this planning like there's so much wasted space, why are those two seats on the lower side of the schematic have a full on seats' width there? a standing place? the fucking thing has standing places to the left and right, the angled seats just hurt my fucking eyes, so much empty space too that could have seats
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     :segasaturn: (takao@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 26-Oct-2024 01:34:53 JST :segasaturn:

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     • Lina Inver?e
     @lina admittedly, the angled seats serve a purpose in that they're located on top of the wheels. Konstal trams had an elevated deck but Pesas are low-floor so they had to sacrifice some of that space. It's still bad though.
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     :segasaturn: (takao@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 26-Oct-2024 01:34:53 JST :segasaturn:

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     • Lina Inver?e
     @lina and frankly, most low floor buses utilise those spaces much better.
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     :segasaturn: (takao@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 26-Oct-2024 01:50:35 JST :segasaturn:

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     • Lina Inver?e
     @lina here, a youtuber showing off Konstal 105Na, link starts just after he finishes explaining the steering console and before he shows off the passenger section: https://youtu.be/OOSB6Bjx834?feature=shared&t=885
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 26-Oct-2024 01:51:12 JST Lina Inver?e

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     @takao real
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 26-Oct-2024 01:53:10 JST Lina Inver?e

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     @takao huh strange, we still have a tavria and my dad has nothing but praise for it, it's small and zippy and accelerates quite quickly
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     :segasaturn: (takao@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 26-Oct-2024 01:53:11 JST :segasaturn:

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     • Lina Inver?e
     @lina oh yeah, that episode is nice. His father shits on the car a lot (he had it) and it's pretty funny.
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     :segasaturn: (takao@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 26-Oct-2024 01:56:37 JST :segasaturn:

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     • Lina Inver?e
     @lina here's a playlist of Soviet vehicles he covered https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLG1IEUOm1FzgyJcM6hZyiWZ5iwfi1lLNJ
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 26-Oct-2024 01:56:37 JST Lina Inver?e

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     @takao lol i disagree here, the soviet mercedes was the gaz 3102
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     :segasaturn: (takao@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 26-Oct-2024 01:56:48 JST :segasaturn:

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     @lina huh, I guess it's outdated since there's more of them on the channel
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