Church of Jeff
#UkraineWar #Russia #China #RussianCollapse
Are the satellite guys keeping an eye on Chinese forces building up on the Russian border?
I've been predicting a Chinese move on Russian territories when Ukraine defeats Russia and they collapse, since March 2022.
If Russia collapses, China will grab what they can, especially Lake Baikal for fresh water sources for their cities. The Su-57 factory is over there too.
China is no one's "friend" and Russia is about to figure that out.
alihan_banan
@jeffowski but firstly Ukraine needs to defeat Russia. Question how can they do it?
Church of Jeff
@alihan_banan -- Ukraine will win the war. WHEN it ends all depends on the West and the US.
They do not see benefit to Russia losing quickly (or Ukraine winning quickly).
The benefit the West is getting is the degradation of Russia. As long as Russia keeps declining, what the West wants is already happening. That's why the help has mostly been incremental. Just enough to keep Russia on its decline but not enough for Ukraine to outright win.
alihan_banan
@jeffowski yeah, US can make Ukraine win, but they don't. Russia losing quickly or conflict ending in just 3 years means that Lockheed Martine, General Electric, Boeing etc will get less money, Russia losing and getting torn apart will damage US nuclear energy sector since they buy most of the uranium from Russia even now and the same goes to the agricultural sector that still buys a lot of fertilizers. Business incentive doesn't let US help Ukraine.
alihan_banan
@jeffowski and i highly doubt Russia is currently falling apart - politically Russian totalitarian government controls every corner of the country and as of right now BRICS is developing fast - everything West took away as they left Russian has already been replaced by China and Russia is actively becoming an appendage of a Chinese economy from the Kaliningrad to the Vladivostok. It's just seems like a new center of power appears to the opposition to the US and I hope that it is for the better
Church of Jeff
@alihan_banan -- Everyday is a worse day than before in Russia. That cannot be denied.
Every day is a decline.
And that's the point too. It cannot completely collapse, or there will be a power vacuum.
There will be backing from The West for one faction inside Russia. That's why China will freak out and roll over the border to grab what they see is in their national strategic interest, and The West will have to allow it in the meantime.
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Church of Jeff
@alihan_banan -- But China will be "allowed" to grab that territory because it will be a HUGE National endeavor and a HUGE financial drain to almost double the size of your country.
Look at what happened when West Germany absorbed East Germany.
In doing so, China will have to greatly delay any plans they had for Taiwan.
alihan_banan
@jeffowski or they just won't do that and do the same thing West does - sponsor politicians and business owners of the Russia to make them loyal and control the economy of Russia. I live in Kazakhstan, just near the Russian Federation and from what I can see is that both Kazakhstan and Russian economies are being taken over by chinese automakers, tech and building companies and Chinese investors are taking over many national companies. Controlling economics = controlling the country, in the end
alihan_banan
@jeffowski all I see is that China, Russia, Iran and North Korea form an informal union that just does one thing - it opposes the US domination of the world and support everyone who does the same on the outside, while on the inside Russia goes the same way it went ever since the 90s ended - neoliberal capitalists abuse the economics and political scene, while sponsoring alt right propaganda, but now these capitalists move money to China and not the Europe or US.
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