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The most surreal moment in the descent of Fash the Nation into total irrelevance was the debate between Jazzhands and Chris Cantwell, fresh outta prison, in which Cantwell was trying to talk Jazzhands off the ledge of total madness.
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@haberdasher It was like prison sobered Cantwell up while NJP drove Jazzhands completely insane.
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@judgedread @haberdasher Doing time in the slam (a strictly controlled environment) does have that effect on a man. Particularly if said man has substance abuse issues
Turns out many people do better when you heavily restrict their choices. Who knew?
(Our ancestors did)
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@judgedread I still got that episode saved on my phone
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@TrevorGoodchild Also interesting, when Sven got completely shitfaced and spilled the beans on NJP's total failure he let slip he suspected Jazzhands was an enemy infiltrator of some kind.
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@judgedread This never-ending trainwreck makes me appreciate what Uncle A was able to accomplish through a decade of tard wrangling even more
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@TrevorGoodchild @judgedread I try to make a point to mention to people that you are not going to be able to make your movement free of infiltrators, so don't make any plans that require that to happen.
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@judgedread @TrevorGoodchild Correct, but that's assuming America 2010 and Germany 1925 are otherwise the same.
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@TrevorGoodchild You may have noticed I've also written off Patriot Front for failure to launch. I still think they were the closest to the correct persuasion stack required, but poor opsec and lack of fertile recruiting ground due to insufficient media killed the goose.
Hitler took NSDAP from less than 20 guys to 1000 in a year and then went parabolic. PF is seven years old.
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@judgedread We'll see. I have a more relaxed attitude on timeframes. It took the Talibros 20+ years and they had far more advantages than we do.
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@TrevorGoodchild @judgedread My take on this is that as long as people are pointed in the right direction I don't worry about it.
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@sickburnbro Organizing a parallel political structure when every aspect of the enemy's surveillance apparatus is specifically geared towards crushing this in its infancy . . . well . . .
"Difficult, not impossible."
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@TrevorGoodchild often when their is enough political power to infiltrate and destroy parallel structures like this, the best thing to do is just stay operating to show people there is opposition.
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@judgedread @LatigoMorgan Correct, you should not stop gatekeeping just because there is a possibility of someone making it past.
Frankly militaries have been concerned about this for ages, so there is a wealth of information on this.
But the thing I like the best is flipping spys so they become spys for you - because they are some of the hardest for a enemy to stop, because they need to give them latitude.
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@LatigoMorgan You can't stop vetting because the infiltrator not only provides intel, they sabotage the group.
See: Mike Enoch getting TRS to stand down regarding the most dangerous Marxist power grab since 1917 - coronahoax.
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@sickburnbro @TrevorGoodchild @judgedread If you have more than two people in your group, there will either be infiltrators, or some retard who got flipped to become an informant. If you operate under that assumption, you can avoid a lot of problems.
Groups with the strictest vetting and membership requirements are still filled with infiltrators and informants. If they can't avoid it happening, then don't think anyone else can if you draw Leviathan's interest.
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@judgedread @LatigoMorgan feeding bad intel, then seeing how far it makes? That's gotta be a thrill.