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   silverwizard (silverwizard@convenient.email)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Oct-2024 03:34:22 JST silverwizard

   One of the things that is destroying the web is WASM and JavaScript.

   This isn't really even a joke - it's literal.

   By having all these tools to make a web browser have unfettered access to the system, it becomes unsafe to allow users to generate arbitrary code. We can't have another MySpace or NeoPets User Lookup because we can't allow users to write their own HTML, because that's *dangerous*.

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     silverwizard (silverwizard@convenient.email)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Oct-2024 03:40:53 JST silverwizard

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     The problem is literally that the Web Browser no longer is a web platform. It's a code interpreter. The limits of the web lead to safety. XSS is a consequence of a failure.
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     silverwizard (silverwizard@convenient.email)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Oct-2024 04:34:45 JST silverwizard

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     I don't know what Roblox is doing - but I think Roblox is maybe the birthplace of hackers?
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     Andrew (Television Executive) (ajroach42@retro.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Oct-2024 07:16:57 JST Andrew (Television Executive)

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     @silverwizard I do know, or knew at least, and it absolutely is a little hacker incubator and also a massive threat vector.

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     silverwizard (silverwizard@convenient.email)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Oct-2024 07:17:41 JST silverwizard

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     • Andrew (Television Executive)
     @ajroach42 I feel like all of the good hacker incubators are massive threat vectors. But the People Make Games video made it seem suspicious as hell.
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     j_angliss (j_angliss@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Oct-2024 07:59:33 JST j_angliss

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     @silverwizard BBS > Neopets > roblox. The hacker incubation evolution.

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     silverwizard (silverwizard@convenient.email)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Oct-2024 07:59:50 JST silverwizard

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     • j_angliss
     @j_angliss Ya ain't wrong
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     Andrew (Television Executive) (ajroach42@retro.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Oct-2024 08:33:17 JST Andrew (Television Executive)

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     @silverwizard I haven't seen the video, but I worked in reliability there for half a decade.

     Reliability and security on that platform (not to mention safety) are huge unsolved problems.

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     cy (cy@fedicy.us.to)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Oct-2024 08:33:33 JST cy

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     • Andrew (Television Executive)
     One can only hope!
     
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     silverwizard (silverwizard@convenient.email)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Oct-2024 08:36:32 JST silverwizard

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     • Andrew (Television Executive)
     @ajroach42 I hope they learn to take that seriously. But I bet neopets was just as good at those things >.<
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     MontyOnTheRun (montyontherun@bitbang.social)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Oct-2024 10:03:15 JST MontyOnTheRun

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     @silverwizard I would also argue that it enables the big corps to limit our freedoms with the computers we bought, by locking us to "the web".

     Bare metal is freedom!
     Even if people don't like C/C++/Rust/Go/Pascal, it is important that they exist, so others can have their native Python and Node.

     I must admit that I do enjoy messing around with WASM, but now that I think of it, it's sort of me enjoying my own leach.

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     silverwizard (silverwizard@convenient.email)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Oct-2024 10:03:15 JST silverwizard

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     • MontyOnTheRun

     @montyontherun yeah! We can build these things! Build a limited web and unlimited world!

     Remember never download a . exe from the web, but your safe otherwise!

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     me (me@social.jlamothe.net)'s status on Tuesday, 22-Oct-2024 10:07:47 JST me

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     @silverwizard I've been saying this since the late 90s.
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     silverwizard (silverwizard@convenient.email)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 00:45:52 JST silverwizard

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     @Sconient Oh yeah - JS existed ;)
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     Sconient (sconient@hackaday.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 00:45:53 JST Sconient

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     @silverwizard it was already dangerous in the MySpace days. https://samy.pl/myspace/