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   Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 08:33:36 JST Aral Balkan

   • James Gleick

   @gleick You’re entirely right. However, given the next administration is either going to be neoliberal or fascist, I wouldn’t hold my breath.

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     Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 16:46:36 JST Strypey

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     • James Gleick

     Thanks for the link to Julia Steinberger's essay though @8petros, a relevant quote;

     "As Wendy Brown masterfully tells the story ... Hayek’s neoliberal edifice starts, at its foundation, with a determination to destroy society, and democracy, understood as the ability of people to make common claims about their goals and aspirations. The imposition of market absolutism is a merely a means to an end: the goal is the destruction of democracy."

     https://jksteinberger.medium.com/what-we-are-up-against-2290ba8c4b5c

     @aral @gleick

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     Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 16:46:42 JST Strypey

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     • 8petros
     • James Gleick

     @8petros
     > Neoliberalism means (mong other things) freedom to corporations

     > Monopolies are harmful to the neoliberal freedom

     Pick one. The freedom to create and maintain monopolies is one of the most important corporate freedoms protected by neoliberal policy.

     > Anti-monopoly moves also give neoliberalism "human face", so people resist less.

     The *appearance* of them, sure. Not ones that actually threaten to break monopolies. So not relevant to the Biden administration.

     @aral @gleick

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     8petros (8petros@petroskowo.pl)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 16:46:44 JST 8petros

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     • Strypey
     • James Gleick

     @aral @strypey @gleick Neoliberalism means (mong other things) freedom to corporations over, and above, freedom to individuals. Monopolies are harmful to the neoliberal freedom as they deepen inequality among corporations. Anti-monopoly moves also give neoliberalism "human face", so people resist less.

     The assessment of the robustness I leave to those closer to the US.

     I invite everybody to read an essay here:

     
     What we are up against - Julia Steinberger - Medium

     Julia Steinberger: Immigrant, Swiss-American-UK ecological economist at the University of Lausanne. Research focus on living well within planetary limits. Opinions my own.
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     • James Gleick

     @aral
     > the next administration is either going to be neoliberal or fascist

     You're going to need to convince me that an administration that's been doing robust anti-monopoly enforcement for the first time since 2001 is "neoliberal".

     AFAICT the neoliberal rump of the Dems was shown the error of their ways in 2016, and had to comprise with the left of the party to get Biden elected. Which worked out so well their position is even weaker now.

     @gleick