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   Ryan Castellucci :nonbinary_flag: (ryanc@infosec.exchange)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 07:02:38 JST Ryan Castellucci :nonbinary_flag:

   Me: TLS isn't a transport layer protocol, it's session and/or presentation layer depending who you ask. TCP and UDP are transport layer protocols.
   Them: TLS stands for Transport Layer Security.
   Me: Yes, do you see now why I avoid using the term "transport layer"?

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     Citty (citty@infosec.exchange)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 07:26:57 JST Citty

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     @ryanc the OSI model is like gender, we made up buckets that don't work and now people who don't care to understand try to force things into them :)

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     Ryan Castellucci :nonbinary_flag: (ryanc@infosec.exchange)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 07:28:09 JST Ryan Castellucci :nonbinary_flag:

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     • Citty

     @citty I mean, really, what the fuck even is QUIC?

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     Citty (citty@infosec.exchange)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 07:28:33 JST Citty

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     @ryanc UDP is still barely a protocol

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     SpaceLifeForm (spacelifeform@infosec.exchange)'s status on Saturday, 19-Oct-2024 07:34:19 JST SpaceLifeForm

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     @ryanc

     People misunderstand that just because it appears as https, does not mean that the initial handshakes were secure in the first place.