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   Joe Groff (joe@f.duriansoftware.com)'s status on Friday, 18-Oct-2024 05:45:00 JST Joe Groff

   @quephird the kids have to learn about m4 sooner or later

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 18-Oct-2024 05:44:56 JST Paul Cantrell

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     I assigned two of my students a presentation on J, and they’re now convinced I hate them

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 18-Oct-2024 05:53:47 JST Paul Cantrell

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     Agreed! I’m hoping they eventually get over the syntax shock enough to spot some of the cool stuff. In addition to the array stuff, APL-land’s version of point-free style is at the very least an interesting road not taken in language design.

     I know nothing about Lil. Must investigate.

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     Joe Groff (joe@f.duriansoftware.com)'s status on Friday, 18-Oct-2024 05:53:49 JST Joe Groff

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     • Paul Cantrell

     @inthehands @quephird that's too bad because the APL family is pretty interesting IMO. it'd be cool to see a variant that used a more approachable character set. Lil (the language used by Decker) does take some ideas from array languages but is more traditional-ish

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 18-Oct-2024 06:02:17 JST Paul Cantrell

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     Oo! Anything inspired by HypeeCard is instantly on my good list.

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     Joe Groff (joe@f.duriansoftware.com)'s status on Friday, 18-Oct-2024 06:02:18 JST Joe Groff

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     • Paul Cantrell

     @inthehands @quephird You definitely should check Decker out too! It's a pretty full-featured HyperCard successor that can deploy to the web and standalone native apps, and is designed to support reusable components and be approachable for non- or beginning programmers (much like HyperCard was)