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SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 17-Oct-2024 18:57:33 JST SuperDicq

Actually I have a recent personal account with Drew Devault being really insincere.

On 25th of November he asked on fedi for an explanation for Richard Stallman's "problematic behavior" in relation to neurodiversity.

As an autism diagnosed person I chimed in with my thoughts and we had (what I felt like was) a long and respectful discussion about the topic where Drew (pretended?) he agreed to a some of my arguments.

Later, that same day he published the article "Neurodivergence and accountability in free software". https://drewdevault.com/2024/09/25/2024-09-25-Neurodivergence-and-accountability-in-free-software.html

The end result, an article that contains only cherrypicked quotes from people in the same thread who fully agree with Drew Devault.

Any viewpoint and arguments from me as a respectful and serious participant in this same thread are not represented in the article whatsoever!

Link to the thread: https://minidisc.tokyo/notes/9yldtvadt7

Go see for yourself the difference in tone used towards me in this thread versus the tone and arguments presented in the actual article.
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  @drewdevault@fosstodon.org Stallman has the firm belief that teenagers are mentally the same as adults and treating them like children is infantilizing. This is a viewpoint that is very relatable for a lot of neurodiverse people, including me. A lot of high functioning (not sure if that is the correct word) neurodiverse people are often said to be "very mature for their age" and that is true. As such my decision making and self sufficiency did not significantly change during puberty, as I could in fact already be considered "mentally adult" as a teenager. It's very likely that Stallman was once of also one those children who fits into this category because I can relate to a lot of arguments Stallman makes quite well. For example I thought it was stupid that I had to wait until 18 to be allowed to vote. I was definitely already mentally mature enough to make an informed decision on politics way before that time, this is proven by the fact that most of the political ideals that I've had since being a young teenager have stayed pretty consistent with me throughout my adulthood. I know people don't like to hear this, but you can apply the same reasoning to sexual consent. Some people are mentally mature enough to be able to make informed decisions when it comes to sexual consent before they reach their respective region's acceptable age of consent. They will then feel infantilized by the system and I think those feelings are valid. There are also definitely cases where a relationship between a teenager and an adult work out completely fine. For example my father started dating a 15 year old teenager at age 27. This was definitely not considered socially acceptable at the time, but they have been together for nearly 25 years now. Anyway back to the point, I am aware that age based laws and regulations exists because not every teenager is mentally mature enough like I was. We as a society decided to make some kind of cut-off point to protect the ones that aren't ready yet so teenagers do not make decisions that they regret or get taken advantage of. I personally do not think this is the best solution, because I agree that this way of thinking does unfairly exclude mentally mature enough teenagers from a lot of things that life has to offer (like voting, driving a car, viewing certain types of media and having consensual sex). I don't try to argue against this as harshly like Stallman does, because I consider the current solution imperfect but still adequate for the problems we're trying to solve. Anyway back to the point I think Stallman, due to his neurodivergence, probably has an underdeveloped ability to look at situations like this from the viewpoint of other someone else's experience being a teenager. He probably assumes that all teenagers are as mentally mature as he was back then and that's probably where most of his viewpoints come from. RE: "Richard Stallman's problematic behavior, particularly with respect to his views on sexual harassment, sexual assault, and sexualizing minors, are best explained by his (supposed) neurodivergence, and to call for his censure on this basis is discriminatory and ableist" I've heard this argument (paraphrased) many times. Neurodivergent folks on fedi: can you chime in with your thoughts? Please refrain from replying if you do not have a personal experience with neurodiversity.
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  @drewdevault@fosstodon.org Why is my experience as a neurodivergent person not being represented in your article?
  
  Do you think my experience invalid?
  
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  mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius: (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 17-Oct-2024 20:36:48 JST mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius:
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  Reminder that the behavior that Drew has is precisely the reason why more and more neuro diverse people decide to end their lives.
  https://quillette.com/2017/07/18/neurodiversity-case-free-speech/
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  @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world Yeah this also makes me realize that using the fact that some neurodiverse people might agree with "stallman is offensive" being used a proof that "neurodiversity is not an excuse" is really toxic.
  
  It's called neuroDIVERSITY, not all neurodiverse people are the same.
  
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  @iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.org I disagree. I know as a developer myself that is is really easy to fall into the hole of looking at software from purely the technical side without caring about any of the "business stuff", like licensing, distribution and copyright.
  
  But I believe that software freedom goes above anything else and if you widen your scope of mind you will realize that it is actually more important than your software being secure, accurate or optimized. (these things can always be realized later if the software is free)
  
  All software must be free as in freedom which I consider priority number 1. So I will defend the people that defend our software freedom, or that freedom may be lost. :gnujihad:
  
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  Iron Bug (iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.org)'s status on Monday, 21-Oct-2024 01:12:34 JST Iron Bug
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  @SuperDicq I could never get that dragging social BS into programming. software (open, non-open or whatever) - it's about the code, dudes! it's just the code an nothing else. and nobody cares who you are, how you look like, what you may like or dislike, etc, while you write accurate, fine working code. that's all about development. people get into senseless batalies but forget to turn on their brains and produce shitware instead of fine code. I think, the only criteria for opensource is the ability to create proper, accurate, optimal working code and nothing else.
  
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  @iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.org What do you think it is going to happen if the FSF, the GNU project and all the copyrights attributed to them gets compromised by people who do not have software freedom on the top of their agenda?
  
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  @SuperDicq softeare freedom has nothing to do with any social/personal issues. it's about licensing and has nothing to do with developers personalities, preferences and so on.
  and you want to "defend" people. but from what? nobody gives a shit. really. that was SJW that attacked somebody. developers never did such senseless crap ever.
  
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  @SuperDicq @iron_bug >if the FSF, the GNU project and all the copyrights attributed to them gets compromised by people who do not have software freedom on the top of their agenda?
  Nothing will happen even if that happens (it won't).
  
  The way the copyright assignments work is that the FSF has only given themselves permission to relicense to better serve free software, thus any attempt to re-license to a proprietary license or to a weak license (without a very good reason as to why that would further free software) would be legally invalid.
  
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  @iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.org Well, the people attacking the FSF think otherwise and think that the FSF does not do enough CoC stuff, etc...
  
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  @SuperDicq they already got infected with SJW and stomped into that COC BS and so on. they should get rid of that all and turn back to code quality and free software licensing. that's all that is really necessary. and all social wars should be kept out of code development. because they only ruin the thing and create problems out of a thin air. that's buffoonary and they should stop praying it.
  
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  @SuperDicq @iron_bug The FSF doesn't have a CoC - all they have is some kind communication guidelines and kind communication is really optional.
  
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  @iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.org I think that's exactly what the FSF is doing. They haven't given the stallman report any public attention for example. Good on them.
  
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  @SuperDicq nothing. people always wrote open source and one does not need whistles and bells, any declarations and licenses to write code and share it, if he wants. that's a purely personal decision, not anything of a sect kind.
  but to write a code one should know how to do it. and this is the most important factor in software.
  I think FSF could pay less attention to that SJW buffons and do what they should do: maintain the code and keep idiots out of it because iudiots are dangerous in any development.
  
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