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   Yvonne Lam (yvonnezlam@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 14-Oct-2024 02:57:56 JST Yvonne Lam

   I am extremely excited to learn the word entiativity ("the perception of a social unit as a 'group,'" according to wikipedia)! Particularly in *sighs* US election season, it's going to be useful to me to be able to think about perceptions of groupiness.

   https://mastodon.social/@grimalkina/113300894807623197

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     anderbill (band@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 14-Oct-2024 02:57:56 JST anderbill

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     @yvonnezlam yeah. but is a group a thing? and, if so, does it have observable properties? i mean, i do experience group dynamics, but what is this group?

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     John Abbe (aka Slow) (slowenough@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 01:38:01 JST John Abbe (aka Slow)

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     • anderbill

     @band @yvonnezlam As long as you keep asking questions like that, you'll be fine. Finding my way to the world of such inquiries is what hooked me on groups over thirty years ago, with the Center for Group Learning in Oakland.

     Consider all the attention on families, the incredible variety of forms they take. Yet they are only one of sooo many kinds of groups in schools, fields, factories, offices, war, worship, games, etc. https://groupworksdeck.org/ #group #facilitation #community #society #culture

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     anderbill (band@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 01:38:01 JST anderbill

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     • John Abbe (aka Slow)

     @slowenough @yvonnezlam regarding group psychodynamics: cf. Alford, C. Fred (1989). Melanie Klein & Critical Social Theory. Yale University Press. <https://worldcat.org/en/title/19553503>
     Page 21:
     Whereas Freud saw the group as modeled on the authoritarian love of the family, a Kleinian perspective sees the group as defending against primitive anxiety. The problem with groups is that they are so good at defending against this anxiety that they forestall ==the emotional conflicts that lead to moral learning==.