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   Kari'boka (kariboka@social.harpia.red)'s status on Saturday, 12-Oct-2024 02:25:50 JST Kari'boka

   • Thunderbird: Free Your Inbox
   Congratz @thunderbird for the new layout! Looking sharp! Thank you!
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     Fidel (fidel@social.harpia.red)'s status on Saturday, 12-Oct-2024 02:39:05 JST Fidel

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     @kariboka @thunderbird Looks like Outlook with Proton. I’m not going to say it looks bad, just thinking ahead about the Mozilla Foundation being funded mostly by Google and the future of Mozilla Foundation without Google funding.

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     Thunderbird: Free Your Inbox (thunderbird@mastodon.online)'s status on Saturday, 12-Oct-2024 03:02:48 JST Thunderbird: Free Your Inbox

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     @kariboka Thank you! We're really proud of our design team and developers and what they've done, both on desktop AND on Android!

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     Thunderbird: Free Your Inbox (thunderbird@mastodon.online)'s status on Saturday, 12-Oct-2024 03:02:59 JST Thunderbird: Free Your Inbox

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     @fidel @kariboka Hi! MZLA and Thunderbird are entirely funded by donors. If you'd like help keep our future bright, you can donate on our website at https://www.thunderbird.net

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     Kari'boka (kariboka@social.harpia.red)'s status on Saturday, 12-Oct-2024 03:05:09 JST Kari'boka

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     @fidel I guess @thunderbird is on a different "sort of company" not related to Firefox anymore.
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     Fidel (fidel@social.harpia.red)'s status on Saturday, 12-Oct-2024 03:05:10 JST Fidel

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     @thunderbird @kariboka “The primary source of this capital is Google, which pays Mozilla to be the default search engine on the Firefox home page. Those payments, which started in 2005, have been increasing—up 50% over the past decade, to more than $450 million, even as the total number of Firefox users has plummeted. In 2021 these payments accounted for 83% of Mozilla’s revenue.”

     Source: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2023-05-05/why-google-keeps-paying-mozilla-s-firefox-even-as-chrome-dominates https://news.itsfoss.com/google-mozilla-firefox-threat/

     Brave Browser hasn’t been able to run out of profits These days, with bloatware, ‘free’ VPN, BAT coins (ads for its own crypto coin) and its search engine Brave Search, which, after all, will all turn into data that can be sold to advertising or artificial intelligence companies.

     I hope Mozilla doesn’t follow in the same footsteps and rely just on donations (not royalties) to remain a non-profit organisation.

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     Fidel (fidel@social.harpia.red)'s status on Saturday, 12-Oct-2024 03:25:55 JST Fidel

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     @kariboka @thunderbird “Mozilla Thunderbird and the Thunderbird logos are trademarks of the Mozilla Foundation.”

     Sadly, it’s not.

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     Thunderbird: Free Your Inbox (thunderbird@mastodon.online)'s status on Saturday, 12-Oct-2024 05:20:45 JST Thunderbird: Free Your Inbox

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     @kariboka @fidel Both MZLA (which makes Thunderbird) and the Mozilla Corporation (which makes Firefox) are under the Mozilla Foundation, but we are completely separate from each other, including financially. You can read more about this in the original blog post announcing it: https://blog.thunderbird.net/2020/01/thunderbirds-new-home/

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     Fidel (fidel@social.harpia.red)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Oct-2024 00:14:36 JST Fidel

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     @thunderbird @kariboka The idea that Thunderbird should be part of the Mozilla Foundation, even if financially separate, raises concerns about centralisation. This arrangement could jeopardise Thunderbird’s ability to innovate and respond to its unique user base.

     A fully independent entity would allow Thunderbird to focus on its specific goals and challenges without being influenced by the Mozilla Corporation’s broader priorities. This separation could promote greater agility, creativity and responsiveness, ultimately benefiting both products.

     By establishing Thunderbird as a distinct organisation, it could better harness its potential and build a stronger community around its vision. A decentralised approach would promote innovation and ensure that each project could thrive on its own merits, rather than being constrained by a centralised structure.

     That is my opinion, my own personal opinion, and I’m totally against centralisation.

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