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Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 28-Sep-2024 03:38:35 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: @xerz plus like TinyCoreLinux, OpenWRT, buildroot, Yocto, sabotage, oasis, … -
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Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 28-Sep-2024 03:42:56 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: @q66 @xerz Yup, although pretty sure OP would also end up with a toy, specially with ditching GNU Make (which virtually all Unixes have more or less by default). -
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q66 (q66@blahaj.social)'s status on Saturday, 28-Sep-2024 03:42:57 JST q66 @lanodan @xerz none of those have that kind of scope though, these are either domain-specific or toys
as far as truly general-purpose ones go that do not target gnu userland by default, there is only chimera and to a degree alpine
(the closest you go otherwise is gentoo and apparently nix, when unofficial setups are considered)
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Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 28-Sep-2024 03:46:38 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: @q66 @xerz Pretty much yeah.
Like there's GNU bits I can understand ditching (as I've thrown out my fair share of them) but throwing out what's effectively a dependency for purely ideological reasons is just bonkers. -
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q66 (q66@blahaj.social)'s status on Saturday, 28-Sep-2024 03:46:39 JST q66 @lanodan @xerz there is nothing to be gained from ditching gnu make, it's pretty much just a mildly interesting experiment for purists
it's a build tool, it should not be treated specially from other build tools
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 28-Sep-2024 03:48:52 JST 翠星石 @q66 >Purists.
>Removing the purest of the pure software when it comes to freedom and using software under a weak license instead is meant to be pure. -
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q66 (q66@blahaj.social)'s status on Saturday, 28-Sep-2024 04:24:15 JST q66 @lanodan @xerz i mean it makes total sense to ditch gnu make where you realistically can (because gnumake is a pile of very poorly documented extensions that is impossible to replicate), but this should involve ditching it for something that is not make, and is not a distro thing to decide
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q66 (q66@blahaj.social)'s status on Saturday, 28-Sep-2024 04:24:30 JST q66 @lanodan @xerz (what also does not make sense is replacing it in a selectively picked amount of places with another impl of make where it seemingly works, because subtle behavior differences will actually introduce subtle breakages to the result that you won't notice until much later, such is make...)
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