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   Raccoon🏳️‍🌈 (raccoon@techhub.social)'s status on Friday, 27-Sep-2024 02:18:57 JST Raccoon🏳️‍🌈

   • Evan Prodromou

   So... Has anyone on here actually talked with the people from the #SocialWebFoundation?

   I can tell the #Mastodon Organization has, but #Threads is also listed there, while I don't see any other names that aren't some corporate entity. I'm all for groups that want to expand the #Fediverse, even for-profit ones, but it's a red flag when an organization that purports to be for a general movement doesn't have an open line of communication with rank-and-file server-runners and volunteers...

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   I just realized that it was founded by @evan who is actually very active in mainstream Fedi, and one of the maintainers of the actual protocol. While that doesn't elaborate on actual intentions, it is good to know that at least it's someone who is directly involved, and not some random corporation. #EvanProdromou

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     Raccoon🏳️‍🌈 (raccoon@techhub.social)'s status on Friday, 27-Sep-2024 02:18:55 JST Raccoon🏳️‍🌈

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     • Amber

     @puppygirlhornypost2
     Their website has language about concrete goals, which include encryption on private messages and better support for long form / rich text posts like those on CoHost or WordPress, which I would be in favor of. I think the most concerning thing here is that there are a couple companies listed as being involved who don't seem to be involved, namely Facebook/Threads...

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     Amber (puppygirlhornypost2@transfem.social)'s status on Friday, 27-Sep-2024 02:18:56 JST Amber

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     @Raccoon@techhub.social my concern is that they have a bunch of vague promises about shaping the fediverse and its future without explicitly stating their intentions. If they listed flaws in fedi, different things like the lack of moderation tooling, legal resources and other stuff that I constantly complain about I might have been more open. I’m not entirely sure though considering that automattic is part of it… I’m not about to let automattic kick me out of my new home on the internet after they did it twice on tumblr.

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     Amber (puppygirlhornypost2@transfem.social)'s status on Friday, 27-Sep-2024 07:53:52 JST Amber

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     @Raccoon@techhub.social WHY PRIVATE MESSAGING OMG. That's fucking awful. Nobody needs E2EE haphazardly slapped on the protocol for a false sense of security with private messaging. You want encrypted private messaging? Go to literally any other platform fedi is not the place for that. I am actually pissed, there's no way in hell that I would want to administrate something like that. I have seen countless examples of Matrix home servers going wrong within this community due to a lack of moderation tooling. We're not talking just a couple racists we're talking about child sex trafficking, csam distribution... Ugh. That pisses me the fuck off. Rich text posts are a nicety to have, I'd really like for things to adopt markdown and not mfm (fuck mfm imo it's okay but it's not a markdown and it's definitely not something that's viable long term. it's a gimmick). I guess I missed their "mission" page. Now I'm even more furious, because none of this is going to help the fediverse be widely adopted.
     
     We are at a turning point. Running an instance is a lot of fucking work, we lack moderation tooling (yes, every software currently out there has some sort of flaw when it comes to mod tools. Akkoma has some bulk moderation tooling but is also lacking in other areas). The last fucking thing we need is encrypted dms to be used as a tool for harassment. We already suffer enough with how you can't disable replies in a post. It is awful that this is used as a vector for harassment in combination with setting visibility to restricted modes (such as follower only, so that only the original author can see the bigoted comment and the fanbase of the bigot can also jump in). What the fuck were they thinking? This is some actual shit. Fuck .

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