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   Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 27-Sep-2024 01:14:15 JST Evan Prodromou

   • Râu Cao ⚡

   @raucao so, is MLS over AP an interesting problem to you? Would you like to work on the task force for it?

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 27-Sep-2024 01:45:24 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Râu Cao ⚡

     @raucao I think bridging would be interesting -- being able to do E2EE messaging without decrypting at the bridge point.

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     Râu Cao ⚡ (raucao@kosmos.social)'s status on Friday, 27-Sep-2024 01:45:26 JST Râu Cao ⚡

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     @evan Ultimately, it would be amazing if they could all be made interoperable, of course, but I doubt that everyone will ever agree on the same algos and other details. But still, everyone would need the same MLS primitive functions for their Web clients, so that's why the library/API question is interesting to me.

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     Râu Cao ⚡ (raucao@kosmos.social)'s status on Friday, 27-Sep-2024 01:45:27 JST Râu Cao ⚡

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     @evan Yes and no. The mid- to long-term plan is to add private group chats to a Web chat client of ours. So I'm a bit more interested in MLS over XMPP, and I'm following work for MLS over Nostr, which are both good bases for private group messaging, because users of those protocols already have key pairs and encryption for 1:1 chats in place. Also, the client currently only does XMPP and IRC.

     But I want to follow the AP work on it, too, because it could be added to the same chat client as well.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 27-Sep-2024 03:05:49 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Râu Cao ⚡

     @raucao Honestly there are like 3+ projects just over ActivityPub right now. We need to coalesce. But it'd be good to keep the conversation going. I think integrating into browsers would be great.

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     Râu Cao ⚡ (raucao@kosmos.social)'s status on Friday, 27-Sep-2024 03:05:50 JST Râu Cao ⚡

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     @evan That would be the ideal scenario, because it would allow private DMs across protocols.

     Nobody has it implemented for any decentralized protocol yet, so if we don't all ignore each other's work, we might actually be able to make that happen somehow. However, I'm still not very hopeful that everyone can agree on the details. But surely we can try at least.