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   Ben Ramsey (ramsey@phpc.social)'s status on Monday, 23-Sep-2024 22:03:23 JST Ben Ramsey

   Maybe it’s time for the community to fork #WordPress.

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     SKC (skc@scottodon.com)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Sep-2024 00:42:18 JST SKC

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     • Chris Wiegman

     @ramsey @chris when you get a WP core committer to become involved, you have a real solid fork IMO.

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     SKC (skc@scottodon.com)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Sep-2024 00:42:19 JST SKC

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     • Chris Wiegman

     @ramsey @chris I don’t think that first one counts 😅

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     Ben Ramsey (ramsey@phpc.social)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Sep-2024 00:42:21 JST Ben Ramsey

     • Chris Wiegman

     @chris Eh 🤷♂️

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     Alda Vigdís (alda@topspicy.social)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Sep-2024 00:49:54 JST Alda Vigdís

     • Chris Wiegman
     • SKC

     @chris @skc @ramsey Since I came back from the Rubyverse to WordPress, I have had the hunch that the WordPress project itself, its monolithic structure and its multiple appendices is deliberately designed to prevent a successful fork from ever seeing the light of day.

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     Ben Ramsey (ramsey@phpc.social)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Sep-2024 06:08:49 JST Ben Ramsey

     • Chris Wiegman
     • SKC

     @chris @skc Why would you need to fork all of those? Couldn’t you support compatibility with the WP plugin/theme API?

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     Darnell Clayton :verified: (darnell@one.darnell.one)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Sep-2024 06:23:48 JST Darnell Clayton :verified:

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     • Chris Wiegman
     • alpha1beta
     • SKC
     • WordPress

     @alpha1beta @chris @ramsey @skc Most forks of #WordPress start out strong but fade away over time either because @WordPress rolls their best features into the core (I think this happened with WordPress MU) or lack of support & interest from the community overall.

     To my knowledge #ClassicPress (https://www.classicpress.net) is the most active fork of WordPress right now, but I only know of a few sites who use it.

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     alpha1beta (alpha1beta@libretweet.com)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Sep-2024 06:23:49 JST alpha1beta

     • Chris Wiegman
     • SKC

     @chris @ramsey @skc

     Agreed. But also the documentation, both official and community - blogs, Stack Overflow and other forums, etc.

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     SKC (skc@scottodon.com)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Sep-2024 08:10:30 JST SKC

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     • Chris Wiegman
     • Alda Vigdís

     @alda @chris @ramsey I know someone you can reach out to about this if your company says you can’t work on core stuff. They will cover your salary if you get in trouble for talking to them. /s

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     Alda Vigdís (alda@topspicy.social)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Sep-2024 08:10:31 JST Alda Vigdís

     • Chris Wiegman
     • SKC

     @chris @skc @ramsey And I must ask, where is the joy or reward in contributing to this codebase?

     Many of us need to argue for contributing to open source being a part of our nine-to-five. Even during my time at Automattic, fixing blocking bugs in the WP core was considered extracurricular or "not a good use of your time".

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     Andy Fragen (andyfragen@wptoots.social)'s status on Thursday, 26-Sep-2024 10:23:32 JST Andy Fragen

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     • Chris Wiegman
     • SKC

     @chris @skc @ramsey
     Well this was prescient.

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     Andy Fragen (andyfragen@wptoots.social)'s status on Thursday, 26-Sep-2024 10:23:34 JST Andy Fragen

     • Chris Wiegman
     • SKC

     @chris Let’s no forget all the not so public APIs used for updating.

     @skc @ramsey