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   okanogen TheEnemyFromWithin (okanogen@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Sep-2024 05:36:14 JST okanogen TheEnemyFromWithin

   It's significant to point out that BIPOC need *good* policing EVEN MORE than White people do.

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     okanogen TheEnemyFromWithin (okanogen@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Sep-2024 05:36:14 JST okanogen TheEnemyFromWithin

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     The problem is there ARE bastard cops. We need a system that gets them OUT, not one that rewards them.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Sep-2024 05:36:14 JST Paul Cantrell

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     @Okanogen
     I would rephrase that to say that policing itself as it exists is a bastard — the job, the power structure, the incentives, the rewards, what kinds of accountability it does and does not involve — and the individual bastards in the job are there as a result of, not a cause of, the broken structure.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Sep-2024 05:37:37 JST Paul Cantrell

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     @Okanogen
     Put more simply: is it any surprise that a job whose fundamental surrounding structure is “terrorize Black and brown people with either impunity or, if you do it enough, a lavish early retirement” attracts white supremacists?

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     okanogen TheEnemyFromWithin (okanogen@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Sep-2024 05:46:07 JST okanogen TheEnemyFromWithin

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     • Paul Cantrell

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     That was why I mentioned a system that supports them. If we had a system that removed or better yet, screened out people like Derek Chauvin, we wouldn't have murders like George Floyd or Philandro Castille.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Sep-2024 05:46:07 JST Paul Cantrell

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     @Okanogen
     I hear you. I’m just saying the systemic changes need to go beyond changing who gets hired. Stuff like qualified immunity and property seizure laws basically make it inevitable that even good people will end up doing something awful eventually. Even incentive structures like how traffic tickets are dept income + are more likely to stick if you don’t pull over ppl who can’t contest them in court end up targeting the marginalized. Good people: necessary, not sufficient.