Conversation

Notices

1. Embed this notice
   Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Sep-2024 23:54:23 JST Bread up, Bro
   This is just the simple point, you can't have you cake and eat it too.
   
   Saying someone is a "threat to our democracy" means more than just "some bad things would happen if this guy gets elected"
   • Embed this notice
     Eleutheria2 (eleutheria2@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Sep-2024 00:02:20 JST Eleutheria2

     in reply to
     @sickburnbro
     Bread up, Bro likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     Fedi, James Fedi (007@noauthority.social)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Sep-2024 00:05:09 JST Fedi, James Fedi

     in reply to

     @sickburnbro Getting a lefty to ever admit something is their own fault is like... they would literally rather die. That's what 'threat to democracy' means to them. If they ever get held accountable for their own fuck ups, they think it's a threat to their life. There's no middle ground in their mind.

     Bread up, Bro likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Sep-2024 00:06:01 JST Bread up, Bro

     in reply to

     • Fedi, James Fedi
     @007 yes, that's why the infitine double down. But that's also what the "choose one" is about. They actually don't care about "no calling for violence" , it's obvious. So the game is to get them to choose 1.
   • Embed this notice
     Fedi, James Fedi (007@noauthority.social)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Sep-2024 00:08:44 JST Fedi, James Fedi

     in reply to

     @sickburnbro They're never going to cooperate, they're bad faith actors. If you logic trap them like this, they'll completely ignore it and go on pretending it never happened while they keep attacking you

     Bread up, Bro likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Sep-2024 00:11:10 JST Bread up, Bro

     in reply to

     • Fedi, James Fedi
     @007 the key isn't to lawgic trap them - thats getting someone to put forward an idea, then direct them into something where they show they don't actually support that idea ( or it's impossible, etc. )
     
     This is simply saying "choose one" and let them try to make up justifications about why they can do both, so it's more like "your enemy is losing when they are explaining"
   • Embed this notice
     mousewaffen (mousewaffen@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Sep-2024 00:16:31 JST mousewaffen

     in reply to

     • Fedi, James Fedi
     @007 @sickburnbro Hitler talked about this in Mein Kampf
     Even if you completely body their argument the next day the act like it never happened
     Bread up, Bro likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Sep-2024 00:17:13 JST Bread up, Bro

     in reply to

     • mousewaffen
     • Fedi, James Fedi
     @mousewaffen @007 goodreads.com/quotes/9838985-you-cannot-reason-a-person-out-of-a-position-he
     
     This idea is very, very old.
   • Embed this notice
     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Sep-2024 00:21:42 JST Bread up, Bro

     in reply to

     • mousewaffen
     • Fedi, James Fedi
     @mousewaffen @007 note that the faggy "person" is faggots rewriting the actual line:
     
     en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Jonathan_Swift has the actual quote:
     
     "Reasoning will never make a man correct an ill opinion, which by reasoning he never acquired"
     
     Letter to a Young Clergyman (January 9, 1720)
     BowserNoodle ☦️ repeated this.
   • Embed this notice
     Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Sep-2024 00:22:58 JST Bread up, Bro

     in reply to

     • mousewaffen
     • Fedi, James Fedi
     @mousewaffen @007 it's not, it's sadly more like a N dimensional Mobius strip.
     
     What this really means though is you need to not discard the wisdom of elders and simply understand there will always been forces to fight against.
   • Embed this notice
     mousewaffen (mousewaffen@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Sep-2024 00:22:59 JST mousewaffen

     in reply to

     • Fedi, James Fedi
     @sickburnbro @007 I know, I'm just kind of tired of time being a flat circle
   • Embed this notice
     Cap'n Kong (slightretvrn) (kang_kong3@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Sep-2024 03:03:07 JST Cap'n Kong (slightretvrn)

     in reply to

     • mousewaffen
     • Fedi, James Fedi
     @sickburnbro @mousewaffen @007 Slightly more modern version: