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As it is, this is useless outrage porn. Everyone fucking knows they do this shit.
What needs to happen is the Trump campaign sue them for $1 billion dollars and enter discover and fucking rip them a new one.
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@NeoDelorean yes, it's just more of the "they cheat!" ok, great - do you expect them to say "oh, no! you caught us, we will totally stop doing it!"
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@sickburnbro They won't do it. We will just hear endless complaining.
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@NeoDelorean But again with the 5 second brain of America today, maybe it's a new fresh revelation every time.
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@NeoDelorean realistically each election can be the most important if the system keeps doubling down, so that's not really the problem.
The problem is that the grifters keep recycling the same bullshit without any intent of changing things.
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@sickburnbro Probably, just like "this is the most important election in this country's history" being brought out every two years.
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@Bunsen @CliffSecord @Red_Hat Nah, aviation isn't dead. There are thousands of white engineers that maintain 50 year old Cessnas for fun.
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@CliffSecord @Red_Hat @sickburnbro Well, Boeing is dead. RIP aviation.
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Boeing is currently occupied replacing White workers with Haitian savages....who I understand will be backfilling all the White workers on strike.
Speaking of, that associate of mine, before coming down here, is lawyering up and going public
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Too bad Trump won't, besides ABC would reach out to Boeings whistleblower unit.
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@Red_Hat I think Boeing's whistleblower unit is currently busy enough as things go.
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@Bunsen @CliffSecord @Red_Hat Gotta remember that just like what SpaceX is currently doing - first private spacewalk - there are some good things happening, but no media exists to paint a realistic picture of what is happening in the world.
It's either "science is awesome, look at all these brown people sciencing!" or "the west has died" ( essentially )
I mean even spacex had a BROWN SCIENCE WOMAN as pilot of one of their things, so everyone feels that DEI pressure
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@sickburnbro @CliffSecord @Red_Hat I always appreciate your optimism, Sick Burn, Bro.
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@Bunsen @CliffSecord @Red_Hat They say "how are you going to fight against the US Army" but with parts falling of globemasters, I think the answer is "wait for a few more maintenance cycles"
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@sickburnbro @CliffSecord @Red_Hat I'm just bracing for the upcoming mass White genocide that's coming.
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@CliffSecord @Bunsen @Red_Hat Note that everyone is really to blame here. When something seems too good to be true, it almost is.
People bought that cheap shit knowing something was up, and not caring to look.
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Indeed. RIP to American presence in the major commercial aviation segment. Boeing's leadership only have themselves to blame for their woes. Fuck 'em.
However, I am in full agreement with several trade publications with respect to the light aviation sector. Cessna & Beechcraft, while fully American, have priced themselves out of the market. Cirrus & Piper are foreign owned & controlled companies that are American in name only, whose products are also rediculously overpriced.
Our corner of the segment, the Experimental & Amateur-Built market, went stale years ago with one company, Vans Aircraft, becoming the defacto leader by way of more-than-friendly and beyond sleazy fanboy-tier media coverage...and deceptively low prices.
For years, they bragged about how all their kits were 'Made in America'. Thanks to the company owners presence on the EAA Board of Directors, Vans Aircraft received the lion's share of coverage. A glance at their monthly magazine, Sport Aviation, would lead one to think there were no other choices out there.
Then, less than a year ago, despite near-monopolization of the market, Vans went into bankruptcy. Why? They lost their asses due to replacing a ton of defective kit parts. This was when it was discovered that the majority of their kits (about 85% worth) were produced in the Philippines. So much for their 'Made in Murica' claims, right? At least that explained the low prices...kind of. Also, they are staring down the barrel of a massive class action lawsuit, due to the aluminum metals used. Turns out the main reason behind the low prices was the fact that the metals were sourced from China. As is tradition with cheap Chinese shit, not everything was as it seemed. A spar with "6061-T6" stamped on it was not the case with some aircraft. We discovered this with a client's Vans RV-9A that was showing abnormal signs of fatigue in the spar. That bird, that the client spent 10 years building, is no longer airworthy after just five years and 337 hours of hangar-kept, well-maintained, normal, non-aerobatic use.
Yeah, Vans is done. Numerous other kit manufacturers are going under due to a general lack of demand, because after Vans' flex, what they offer is a copy of something that has already been done. You can only do so many scaled down warbird replicas, so many ultralights, so many Long EZ look-alikes. Literally nothing new; nothing next level. Nothing better.
We are entering the market with what we hope is an answer to these problems.
Stay tuned.
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@CliffSecord @Red_Hat @Bunsen Experimental is a cool new area that the FAA finally allowed to exist, though.
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Agreed. I wish the plaintiffs luck; but it will be a very tough sell in court. In the E-AB world, any manufacturer has clients sign waivers holding the manufacturer harmless if anything goes wrong, because when it comes to the build part, the builder is by all accounts THE manufacturer, and is ultimately responsible for ensuring the suitability of everything he/she chooses to use for flight use. FAR Part 21 outlines this as well, hence a part of the "51% Rule".
But the questions will be "how was I to know that this material was fraudulent?" and "how can you claim that the product was made in America when you knew it wasn't?".
The kicker about this whole thing was that the boomer who owns the company actually piped up saying that he had been subsidizing the company out of pocket the last few years. In other words, he knew they had bad accounting and bad product, but did nothing, likely because he was that convinced of his market position. Typical boomernomics.
In either case, the reputation of the company is toast.
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It has been around longer than you can believe; but only in the last 30 years have aircraft come online that have much better performance. The recent big deal was the FAA finally allowing the use of non-certified avionics in certified aircraft, breaking the stranglehold that the avionics industry had on the sector, driving down prices by near orders of magnitude.
For example, four years ago, a Garmin ADS-B capable transponder, just one part of an aviomics stack, was once over $12,500. They are now less than a tenth of that...new.
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@Big_Farma @CliffSecord @Red_Hat @Bunsen remember, you don't *actually* need TIG to weld aluminum
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@CliffSecord @sickburnbro @Red_Hat @Bunsen This is great news. I had the impression that a nice suite of avionics could almost double the price on a small private plane.
Don't get my hopes up though or I'll want to start refining my TIG welding and looking at homebuilt kit options!
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@CliffSecord @Red_Hat @Bunsen @MuscleOrc1221 given the improvements in understanding engine failures, I feel like designs like these are less critical
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This one offsets asymmetric thrust from an engine failure...
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@sickburnbro @CliffSecord @Red_Hat @Bunsen Did someone say experimental aircraft?
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>that last one with the entirely asymetric layout
Why?
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