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   Church of Jeff (jeffowski@mastodon.world)'s status on Sunday, 08-Sep-2024 08:17:36 JST Church of Jeff

   #lgbtq #trans

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     Alon (alon@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Sep-2024 01:11:03 JST Alon

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     @skaphle @rood @jeffowski It's a fake quote. Remember, he *did not include the Jews*. He included smaller groups of victims, because he himself was anti-Semitic. Stop doing this right-wing worship of every anti-Semite who washed himself of the Nazis after the war; it's the same mentality that led Nazi journalists to get rehabilitated after the war, often by Axel Springer himself.

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     Church of Jeff (jeffowski@mastodon.world)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Sep-2024 01:11:03 JST Church of Jeff

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     @Alon @skaphle @rood — everyone needs to chill because I’m pretty sure neither one of those guys said “trans”. People need to learn some meme-literacy.

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     Alon (alon@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Sep-2024 01:11:05 JST Alon

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     @skaphle @rood @jeffowski I'm not talking about modern democratic Germany, after the left won the Historikerstreit (the self-proclaimed anti-communists were defending Hitler; Jäckel's view of the uniqueness of the Holocaust comes from the opposite end). I'm talking about Niemöller, a man who evidently preferred Nazi Germany to modern democratic multicultural Germany. Stop commemorating that anti-Semitic shit.

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     skaphle (skaphle@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Sep-2024 01:11:05 JST skaphle

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     @Alon I didn't know about his views. The quote is usually shared without context and I've never seen it as a promotion of the person but only of the idea. I think it's even more powerful coming from a person with problematic views. It might even be more relatable for those who need to hear it. @rood @jeffowski

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     skaphle (skaphle@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Sep-2024 01:11:06 JST skaphle

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     @Alon That's a strange accusation. If you took any recent notice of German mainstream press or had visited a German school, you'd get the impression that Jews are almost exclusively in the focus as victims of the Nazis. The reason for that, I'd say, is first anticommunism, and second how the presumed German reformation and regret can be weaponized for national geopolitical ambitions. @rood @jeffowski

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     rood (rood@aus.social)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Sep-2024 01:11:07 JST rood

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     @Alon @jeffowski it's described as a confession, and he only came to it the hard way. But he recounted it time and again with various inclusions to different audiences.

     Are you sure you haven't conflated his former life with his latter life?

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     Alon (alon@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Sep-2024 01:11:07 JST Alon

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     @rood @jeffowski His original version omitted the Jews, because he was so anti-Semitic that he didn't seem to mind what the Nazis were doing the Jews even while in the camps; Yad Vashem did not give him Righteous Among the Nations status, since he only did anything for converts to Christianity. It's self-pitying bullshit, so of course Europe (and CANZUS) eats that shit up, to avoid centering the biggest group of victims of the Nazis.

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     Alon (alon@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Sep-2024 01:11:08 JST Alon

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     @jeffowski It's a bad poem by a bad person and people need to stop quoting it. https://mastodon.social/deck/@Alon/112770160114866875