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   dilbert 1 (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 07-Sep-2024 04:27:25 JST dilbert 1

   Is this true?

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     Vinnewed Goblin (warmbeverageenjoyer@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 07-Sep-2024 04:28:56 JST Vinnewed Goblin

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     @sun yes. Also even the previous one just said "private," not "secure." Telegram doesn't use e2ee except when users manually turn it on for direct messages (not group chats/channels)
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Saturday, 07-Sep-2024 04:29:35 JST lainy

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     @sun go to the faq, ctrl-f, it’s still there, but under a different question
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     H. Faust (hfaust@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 07-Sep-2024 04:29:50 JST H. Faust

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     @sun Apparently so https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/5/24237174/telegram-ceo-pavel-durov-statement-following-arrest
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     Bricky (thatbrickster@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 07-Sep-2024 04:33:08 JST Bricky

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     @sun I believe that line still appears under another question. I haven't checked personally but Telegram should never be assumed private.
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     dilbert 1 (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 07-Sep-2024 04:34:31 JST dilbert 1

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     • anemone🦐🦀🦞:shrimpface:
     @animeirl well yeah if its not e2ee its not even plausibly private
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     anemone🦐🦀🦞:shrimpface: (animeirl@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 07-Sep-2024 04:34:32 JST anemone🦐🦀🦞:shrimpface:

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     @sun It was never true at least they're no longer lying about it
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     Reid :ablobcatattention: (reiddragon@fedi.reimu.info)'s status on Saturday, 07-Sep-2024 06:04:18 JST Reid :ablobcatattention:

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     @sun I do remember it saying the above a few months ago, didn't check if it did get updated like that but I wouldn't be surprised
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     anemone🦐🦀🦞:shrimpface: (animeirl@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 07-Sep-2024 23:02:17 JST anemone🦐🦀🦞:shrimpface:

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     • Caek Islove 🍰 💖
     @caekislove @sun closed source e2ee apps are still more trustworthy than non-e2ee apps depending on your threat model. Backdoored applications will generally require you to be specifically targeted whereas with a non e2ee network you're directly feeding everything you say into the dragnet
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 07-Sep-2024 23:02:17 JST 翠星石

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     • anemone🦐🦀🦞:shrimpface:
     @animeirl >closed source e2ee apps are still more trustworthy
     How on earth can you confirm if the proprietary software is even e2ee?
     
     Proprietary stuff often uses hand-rolled crypto as well, which is easily broken.
     
     You cannot ever trust proprietary malware that can and will spy on you for profit.
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     Caek Islove 🍰 💖 (caekislove@caekis.love)'s status on Saturday, 07-Sep-2024 23:02:18 JST Caek Islove 🍰 💖

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     • anemone🦐🦀🦞:shrimpface:
     Anything not opensourced is backdoored and probably the binary release of something opensource is backdoored too.