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   Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Sunday, 01-Sep-2024 23:18:00 JST Evan Prodromou

   The thing about negotiations is that one side can't obstruct a deal. It just means that their demands havent been met. Negotiating means finding a solution that's acceptable to both parties.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Sunday, 01-Sep-2024 23:18:35 JST Evan Prodromou

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     If the other side isn't willing to make concessions, then it's both sides obstructing a deal.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Sunday, 01-Sep-2024 23:22:57 JST Evan Prodromou

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     In Gaza, Hamas is refusing to return the hostages they took (a war crime) until Israel leaves Gaza, stops killing Palestinian civilians (a war crime) and allows humanitarian aid to come through (another war crime).

     Israel is holding out to keep the right to stay in Gaza and commit more war crimes.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Sunday, 01-Sep-2024 23:28:21 JST Evan Prodromou

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     The Kahanist faction in the Netanyahu cabinet is threatening to withdraw from the coalition and collapse the government if any ceasefire is signed.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Sunday, 01-Sep-2024 23:30:25 JST Evan Prodromou

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     Kahanists believe that Gaza and the West Bank should be annexed, remaining Palestinians should be given second-class citizenship, and any that refuse should be expelled or killed.

     Their main party, Kach, is illegal in Israel and was on the US State Department list of terrorist organizations until 2021. The members in the cabinet are part of successor parties. Same philosophy, different organizations.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Sunday, 01-Sep-2024 23:33:15 JST Evan Prodromou

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     Usually, war crimes are non-negotiable. You don't get to set conditions on when you're going to stop war criming.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Sunday, 01-Sep-2024 23:36:38 JST Evan Prodromou

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     It's long past time for the international community to ensure the basic human rights of Israelis and Palestinians in the region.

     This ceasefire process has been going on for more than 9 months. It cannot be the only plan.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 00:26:59 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Matt Noyes

     @Matt_Noyes absolutely.

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     Matt Noyes (matt_noyes@social.coop)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 00:27:00 JST Matt Noyes

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     @evan but there is such a thing as bad faith bargaining

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Monday, 02-Sep-2024 01:23:22 JST Evan Prodromou

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     That said, negotiations are essential to the crime in hostage-taking. Hostages act as human shields, yes, but they are primarily used as bargaining chips.