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   Lorenzo Stoakes (ljs@social.kernel.org)'s status on Sunday, 01-Sep-2024 13:15:06 JST Lorenzo Stoakes
   What's tiresome is that whenever a controversy in the kernel comes up, no matter how justified or not, the same thing happens.
   
   The usual suspects (including people involved in a 'certain' very toxic linux distro) delete all nuance and start touting the same deeply insulting stereotype about kernel maintainers that you tiresomely hear over + over again.
   
   "They're all horrible toxic megalomaniacal dickheads who won't change because they're too old [bit of ageism in there for fun] and stuck in their ways"
   
   People who know nothing about the kernel love this as it fuels the typical us vs. them narrative that people get off on.
   
   No greys, just black and white, shining knights on one side, awful dragon on the other.
   
   And then it fades and quietens down and these same people go quiet.
   
   And then, loop around...
   
   If people would actually engage in a good faith, sensible discussion, listening to each other, we might make some progress.
   
   I get less and less interested, frankly, in bothering to engage on these things because you know. It's not honest is it?
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     CounterPillow (counterpillow@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 01-Sep-2024 13:16:38 JST CounterPillow

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     @ljs I'm gonna say it: Lina and the whole marcan troupe use dogpile harassment tactics.

     They should know better about how awful these tactics are for the targeted person, but maybe that's precisely why they use them.

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     Lorenzo Stoakes (ljs@social.kernel.org)'s status on Sunday, 01-Sep-2024 13:16:38 JST Lorenzo Stoakes

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     @CounterPillow marcan yes, absolutely, this is what he does, in my view.
     
     I am not a fan of his, and have said so directly to him. But since I have him blocked I tend not to explicitly mention him as it's unfair.
     
     (he's blocked because he attacked me for inferring things about asahi based on available information, a terrible crime that deserved having a 'famous hacker' go at me I'm sure you'd agree...).
     
     Lina has behaved well afaict, I have no issue or qualms with her or her conduct.
     
     I disagree with some aspects of what she's said, but not others (in fact, most things I agree with I'd say). But I respect her and find her to be a perfectly decent and very, very talented person.
     
     I think _most_ in asahi are earnest and good people, I think marcan, while very talented, is neither of those things.
     
     They'd be better off putting somebody else in charge... anyway my mac runs mac os x exclusively now :)
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