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this is why having other people raise your children is bad, because if you have smart children who like pushing limits, they have less incentive to handle them effectively.
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I spanked my kid when a sharp knife was grabbed off the counter. I yell when harm or property damage is about to occur.
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@AmonMaritza yeah, I dunno, I'm not *anti-spanking* but like what he is talking about, I feel like that is what is important - not getting emotional and responding emotionally. I mean I think this is true for most interactions anyway, kids or adults.
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@AmonMaritza I can believe that there may be some kids of certain intelligence/whatever level that spanking may be an effective punishment.
But I think in those situations the key is to not be angry, don't need to jerk them around and yell. Otherwise you aren't doing physical punishment, you're doing emotional as well .. and that's sketchy.
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@sickburnbro I read clever silly stuff like this from Revenant and it is frankly tiresome. No, a parent should not need to resort to physical correction every time their child acts out (time-outs are vastly more effective in this regard). Yes, there are certain realms of behavior where a spanking is highly merited and should be applied, however rarely. Children need boundaries and absolute no-go zones.
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@TrevorGoodchild yes, I think there are some people that may be blessed with intelligent children that are not rebellious. I was not that kind of child, and so when I think about "how would I deal with a little me" .. sometimes when a kid knows the rules, you know they know the rules and they know that you know they know the rules. The question is: what do you do with flagrant disobedience?
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@SpaceGhost_ @TrevorGoodchild the key is "healthy" - they shouldn't be afraid that if they "do something wrong" they will "get beat"
I think I read a while ago that a dad wrestling with kids is a great way for the kids to respect their dad's authority because they get to feel the strength.
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Completely agree. Fear and authority are intertwined by nature. I’m not sure when fear became this no-go emotion in the West. Your children should have a healthy fear of your authority over them. It can’t be fear only, but your authority cannot be absent of fear. Their fear should not just be emotionally, but physically as well (spanking). There are far too many “men“ today who have grown up with single moms, who can talk a lot of smack, but have never had another man put their hands on him. Men need to understand the physical realm and corporal punishment from a young age plays a role in that IMO.
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@SpaceGhost_ @TrevorGoodchild the worst thing I hate about using "kayfabe" politically, is that I respect Hulk Hogan so much it seems rude.
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Well said. Also in the pro-wrestling category.
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@SpaceGhost_ @TrevorGoodchild Pro wrestlers were the triple threat of the 80s
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@TrevorGoodchild @sickburnbro I never really understood the obsession with the buttocks. When I was a kid a slap to the face was the norm, your skin is a sensitive organ so maybe that’s why prople hyper-fixate on it ? The best way to punish a kid imo it forcing them to do push ups or have them do a chore in order to get access to something they want. This way it helps them internalize the idea that the consequences of bad behavior are not always apparent and might come back later on. Also it brings home the idea that behaving badly means you can’t enjoy things consistnetly and stuff like video games or books will be taken away.
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@Amalek_Respector @TrevorGoodchild there are kids who taking things away from doesn't work.