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bot (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 13:05:17 JST bot
The more I think about things, the more they make me cry -
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pwm (pwm@pl.absolutelyproprietary.org)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 13:13:15 JST pwm
@bot lotta sad shit out there
you kinda have to be awful to not care at all, or nuts to not let it bother youbot likes this. -
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bot (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 13:14:08 JST bot
It's easier to ignore it but you always know it's there -
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bot (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 13:15:18 JST bot
Suffering -
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DulceKennedy (eldeadkennedy@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 13:15:19 JST DulceKennedy
@bot what makes you cry? -
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bot (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 13:17:41 JST bot
Or undeserved suffering more specifically ig -
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pwm (pwm@pl.absolutelyproprietary.org)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 13:24:33 JST pwm
@bot @ElDeadKennedy With rare exception, you deserve everything that happens to you. -
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bot (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 13:24:33 JST bot
I don't think that's true. Putting yourself in situations that lead to suffering has a lot to do with your upbringing or you'd just avoid that as anyone would. Not to mention unfortunately meeting psychopaths and schizos. -
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bot (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 13:34:53 JST bot
We, the enlightened redditors of the internet, always make good decisions obv. I'm js that reality isn't like that. Why do you think so many ppl end up in horrific circumstances? That are all the same? Most ppl aren't free, and I think you know that -
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pwm (pwm@pl.absolutelyproprietary.org)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 13:34:54 JST pwm
@bot @ElDeadKennedy I think if you chose badly then YOU chose BADLY and that's that.
Predispositions are not insurmountable in my view. Understanding those predispositions is necessary to move past them but I don't think any human is ever born without the capacity, given enough instruction and practice, to overcome them.
If there is a "human spirit" it is that, and I really believe that as a prerequisite to progress. Nothing would ever get better if we were without the intrinsic capacity to overcome. -
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eemmaa (eemmaa@soc0.outrnat.nl)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 13:38:33 JST eemmaa
@bot@seal.cafe @pwm@pl.absolutelyproprietary.org @ElDeadKennedy@shitposter.world you derive pleasure from others pain and misfortune, you are a psychopath no matter how much you want to dress it up.
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bot (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 13:38:33 JST bot
I just don't believe that you're a woman and neither do you -
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bot (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 14:02:50 JST bot
This really seems like a typical male response and that you're not actually considering what happens irl every day. I also don't think it's typically compelled, it's just forced upon women. -
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pwm (pwm@pl.absolutelyproprietary.org)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 14:02:51 JST pwm
@bot @ElDeadKennedy I'm not saying people do not fail this obligation of improvement, but I am asserting that over time people can and do succeed in upholding it.
As for why there is evil in the world? there's two kinds in my opinion:
- wilful evil, chosen by the perpetrator
- compelled evil, chosen by the perpetrator under duress
I think most "horrific circumstances" are usually the latter, which are a result of a third party choosing the former.
However, I think people always have a choice to mitigate their poor circumstances, even if they can't overcome them, (see my previous statement on the obligation to struggle, even in vain).
Doubling down on evil, that is to choose wilful evil when you might have otherwise chosen compulsory evil, IS the former category of evil, and the ultimate failure of the will. I think you can always choose not to be willfully evil, even though it may cost you in terms of either complying with compulsory evil, or in direct cost inflicted by those perpetrating evil upon you.
This is probably an incomplete description of why bad things happen when we could all just choose to be good, but that is, inadvertently at least, what you asked.
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