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   Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Saturday, 24-Aug-2024 23:20:05 JST Pleroma-tan
   btw python requests fucking sucks it's too slow holy
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     Loliphile (mikuphile@gearlandia.haus)'s status on Saturday, 24-Aug-2024 23:28:34 JST Loliphile

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     @kirby I would say the same about the entirety of python
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Saturday, 24-Aug-2024 23:30:54 JST Pleroma-tan

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     @mikuphile python is so great but the.... The speed
     
     :insane:
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     burner (burner@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Saturday, 24-Aug-2024 23:32:56 JST burner

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     package management and how virtual environments are handled are also aids
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Saturday, 24-Aug-2024 23:33:12 JST Pleroma-tan

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     @burner @mikuphile plz elaborate
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     Loliphile (mikuphile@gearlandia.haus)'s status on Saturday, 24-Aug-2024 23:41:46 JST Loliphile

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     @kirby Every time that I use python, I start to really regret it even before my soyware reaches a couple hundred lines of code. I don't know how some niggers make entire soywares 100% in python.
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     Loliphile (mikuphile@gearlandia.haus)'s status on Saturday, 24-Aug-2024 23:41:54 JST Loliphile

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     @burner @kirby Yes, it's the most niggerlicious thing imaginable:mito_weary:.
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Saturday, 24-Aug-2024 23:42:11 JST Pleroma-tan

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     @burner @mikuphile this is why you simply never have dependencies and always use the standard library :wojak_rapeface:
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     burner (burner@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Saturday, 24-Aug-2024 23:42:11 JST burner

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     >he doesn't know that basic functionality isn't in the standard library
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     burner (burner@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Saturday, 24-Aug-2024 23:42:12 JST burner

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     this might be devs' fault, but I find that there's an issue when installing requirements.txt with pip almost 100% of the time, sometimes it's a specified package not existing, often devs don't specify version numbers so everything will just install latest, meaning shit breaks. Those are just off the top of my head, there's more reasons that installing requirements is consistently retarded on python. I've found that python shit has like a 3 month shelf life before pip makes it a hassle to install.
     
     in terms of virtual environments, there's just a bunch of shit that will reference dependencies on your bare machine, i.e. cuda. Which kind of defeats the purpose
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     burner (burner@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Saturday, 24-Aug-2024 23:57:30 JST burner

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     I don't think so, afaik you have to import it
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Saturday, 24-Aug-2024 23:57:31 JST Pleroma-tan

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     @burner @mikuphile actually isn't a sqlite interface just casually bundled in there
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     burner (burner@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 00:00:23 JST burner

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     https://docs.python.org/3/library/sqlite3.html
     yeah
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     karna :flipflop: :buffsuki: (karna@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 00:05:19 JST karna :flipflop: :buffsuki:

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     @kirby @burner @mikuphile You can do a lot with the standard library (since it's "batteries-included") but CPython is just slow as aids by design. And virtual envs and packages are such a mess because of the lack of proper version number specifications as burner mentioned, but also because for a long time, there was no standard way for making a package for python. there was setup.py files, then setup.cfg files, pyproject.toml files to declare package metadata. And various tools to actually do the packaging from setuptools, poetry, hatch, meson, etc. Also because a lot of popular packages rely on C extensions for speed, the packaging process can get sextra complicated. Pip also doesnt do the best version number resolution for installing packages so other tools like conda popped for managing dependencies but that is bloated in its own way and another rabbit hole...
     
     compare this to something like R, where they made sure there was a coherent standard for packaging pretty early on (not that I like R much, but its a comparable language for certain use cases).
     
     
     
     Also for requests see stackoverflow.com/questions/62599036/python-requests-is-slow-and-takes-very-long-to-complete-http-or-https-request.
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     karna :flipflop: :buffsuki: (karna@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 25-Aug-2024 00:06:27 JST karna :flipflop: :buffsuki:

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     @mikuphile @kirby python delenda est

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