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   'i am no man' Charlotte Eowyn! (charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.tw)'s status on Thursday, 15-Aug-2024 12:41:23 JST 'i am no man' Charlotte Eowyn!

   One thing I have become hyper aware of since transitioning:

   How often bullshit 'smart' white men just fucking lie over and over and over again and fake expertise. Like they CANNOT just admit they don't fucking know.

   Especially in a corporate sense.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 15-Aug-2024 12:41:21 JST Paul Cantrell

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     • Debbie Goldsmith 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈⧖

     @CharlotteEowyn @dgoldsmith
     One of the most eye-opening things for me when I started teaching was that for the first time I had a large sample of the relationship (or non-relationship) between the confidence students project with their behavior in class and the quality of the actual work they hand in.

     I’ll let you guess the details on that one.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 15-Aug-2024 14:46:17 JST Paul Cantrell

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     @brahms @CharlotteEowyn @dgoldsmith
     In brief:

     There’s a “displaying / not displaying confidence in class” continuum, and there’s a “strong / weak work” continuum.

     The correlation is not super strong; all four quadrants are occupied.

     The gender balance of other three quadrants is pretty even, but the high confidence + weak work quadrant skews disproportionately male.

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     Brahms (brahms@chaos.social)'s status on Thursday, 15-Aug-2024 14:46:18 JST Brahms

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     @inthehands @CharlotteEowyn @dgoldsmith could you specify? My experience as a TA was mostly that people who participated actively in class were also delivering above average hand-ins, while the most abhorrent stuff was submitted by names I never recognized (from class)

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 15-Aug-2024 23:23:08 JST Paul Cantrell

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     @kims @CharlotteEowyn @dgoldsmith
     He’s on to a lot in that piece, although it bothers me immensely the way he diagnosis the problem as being 100% “women should be better self promoters“ and 0% “people are generally terrible at interviewing“ or “we reward people misrepresenting themselves instead of rewarding them for less sociopathic behavior.“

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     Kim Scheinberg (kims@mas.to)'s status on Thursday, 15-Aug-2024 23:23:09 JST Kim Scheinberg

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     @inthehands @CharlotteEowyn @dgoldsmith
     Clay Shirky wrote about this 15 yrs ago:
     "I sat in the office of someone I admired and feared, someone who was the gatekeeper for something I wanted, and I lied to his face. We talked some more and he said “Ok, you can take my class.” [...]
     And it looks to me like women in general, and the women whose educations I am responsible for in particular, are often lousy at those kinds of behaviors, even when the situation calls for it."

     https://web.archive.org/web/20100119032954/http://shirky.com/weblog/2010/01/a-rant-about-women/

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 15-Aug-2024 23:39:44 JST Paul Cantrell

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     • Kim Scheinberg

     @kims @CharlotteEowyn @dgoldsmith
     I can say from experience being male that we are relentlessly socialized from a very young age to figure out strategies for Never Being Wrong even when we are totally wrong!

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     Kim Scheinberg (kims@mas.to)'s status on Thursday, 15-Aug-2024 23:39:45 JST Kim Scheinberg

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     @inthehands @CharlotteEowyn @dgoldsmith
     It was a very contentious comments thread and he took no small amount of shit for that stance. I suspect that's why it no longer exists on his site and why I had to resurrect it from the internet archive

     One thing I've long wondered though... was he pissed that he got played into giving the guy a much better recc than was merited? And was this essay his subtle way of rectifying that? That's the sort of clever solution I'd expect from the Clay I knew