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   Alon (alon@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Aug-2024 21:39:34 JST Alon

   • Evan Prodromou

   @evan Qualified yes, because it depends on relative size; Puerto Rico's existence does not make the United States not democratic.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Aug-2024 21:39:34 JST Evan Prodromou

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     @Alon Puerto Rico is about 1% of the total population. How many people have to be disenfranchised for it to remain a democracy?

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     Alon (alon@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 00:24:45 JST Alon

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     • Evan Prodromou

     @evan Yeah, that's what's debatable, but in the US it's a bit more than 1% (for PR, Guam, etc.), and that's definitely not enough to make it undemocratic.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Aug-2024 00:24:45 JST Evan Prodromou

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     @Alon yeah, about 1.5% if you count other territories and DC.

     I think we'd be less forgiving of the policy if the 1.5% of people disenfranchised were excluded by other criteria, like Chinese-Americans or non-binary people.