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   BeAware :fediverse: (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Aug-2024 04:52:44 JST BeAware :fediverse:

   When you have to stop critisizing someone out of fear of being silenced, you know you're in a bad place.

   Being here doesn't feel so good anymore.😔

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     BeAware :fediverse: (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Aug-2024 05:45:05 JST BeAware :fediverse:

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     • Abdujabbar Bozdar

     @yabozdar nah, just criticizing someone in power might cause me to get silenced on a bigger instance.

     I've criticized that person heavily very recently and they personally blocked me cause of it. However, I know of multiple accounts that are silenced there and am still investigating why.

     Its still seemingly pointing to the criticisms of that person. However, i need more time to evaluate.

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     Abdujabbar Bozdar (yabozdar@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Aug-2024 05:45:06 JST Abdujabbar Bozdar

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     @BeAware what happened? Are you in a fist to fist fight again?

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     Abdujabbar Bozdar (yabozdar@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Aug-2024 05:52:21 JST Abdujabbar Bozdar

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     @BeAware If this is the case then you need to learn the art of "constructive criticism". No one will ever be able to silence you. (caution: you might get crushed rather than silenced.)

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     BeAware :fediverse: (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Aug-2024 05:52:21 JST BeAware :fediverse:

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     • Abdujabbar Bozdar

     @yabozdar yeah...it's just concerning that it could be happening at all.

     Twitter vibes...🤦♂️

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     Jerry Lerman (jerry@hear-me.social)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Aug-2024 05:55:27 JST Jerry Lerman

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     @BeAware Silenced by an individual or an entire instance? What size instance? That should only happen to raving lunatics. You're not a raving lunatic.

     BeAware :fediverse: repeated this.
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     BeAware :fediverse: (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Aug-2024 05:55:27 JST BeAware :fediverse:

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     • Jerry Lerman

     @Jerry I've messaged you privately regarding the situation.

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     BeAware :fediverse: (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Aug-2024 05:56:13 JST BeAware :fediverse:

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     • xepher

     @xepher someone in control of certain parts of the Fediverse...😬

     Maybe you can guess exactly who I'm talking about with that.

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     xepher (xepher@mementomori.social)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Aug-2024 05:56:14 JST xepher

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     @BeAware Someone on the fediverse? Or someone the fediverse likes?

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     Exerra (exerra@daedric.world)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Aug-2024 07:06:54 JST Exerra

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     • Jerry Lerman

     @Jerry@hear-me.social @BeAware@social.beaware.live This is one of the major pitfalls of the fediverse :/
     
     Centralisation occurs because new users would rather join a well established big instance (psychologically nicer), but that just increases the power of one or multiple people who can easily abuse it for personal reasons.
     
     Hopefully more and more service providers pop up (or masto.host just becomes more successful) so there's more decentralisation and more bubbles don't form (though then post migration is an issue).

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     BeAware :fediverse: (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Aug-2024 07:07:57 JST BeAware :fediverse:

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     • Exerra

     @exerra @Jerry I don't think there's any better way to say it.

     It's bad.

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     BeAware :fediverse: (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Aug-2024 07:29:36 JST BeAware :fediverse:

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     • xepher

     @xepher yeah...after further investigation, it's not specifically criticisms of him. More that it's conflicts regarding opinions of the Gaza-Israel conflict.

     If you feel very strongly on one side, you won't last very long on .social....🤦♂️

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     xepher (xepher@mementomori.social)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Aug-2024 07:29:37 JST xepher

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     @BeAware If you’re talking about Eugen Rochko, I feel like I see negative posts about him all the time. Plenty of people that have strong opinions about him here it seems.

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     Exerra (exerra@daedric.world)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Aug-2024 07:30:26 JST Exerra

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     • Jerry Lerman

     @BeAware@social.beaware.live @Jerry@hear-me.social I think ultimately centralisation is bound to happen eventually, but it still hurts. Also a lot of crap is given to centralised platforms like Reddit, Twitter, etc, but I feel like they have been quite good at moderation (bar bots recently on Twitter). As they are big companies they have safety teams with a certain level of accountability, and thus they are more open towards letting users express different opinions.
     
     Here sometimes I get the feeling I am less free due to many admins being personally invested into issues and lacking accountability (no one's firing them or docking their pay).

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     BeAware :fediverse: (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Aug-2024 07:32:32 JST BeAware :fediverse:

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     • Exerra

     @exerra @Jerry if I could make this post the front page of every Fedi project, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

     This is exactly how i feel.

     If you have opinions, better keep them to yourself or you're gonna be banned/silenced/blocked.

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     BeAware :fediverse: (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Aug-2024 07:37:06 JST BeAware :fediverse:

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     • xepher

     @xepher sure, but you are a mere normal user.

     Eugen just silences one side of the argument completely on .social

     I have my own opinions as well, but I am not an admin of the biggest Fedi instance silencing one side of the argument.

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     xepher (xepher@mementomori.social)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Aug-2024 07:37:07 JST xepher

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     @BeAware Ahh yeah, I’ve had to try to ignore a lot of that on here. Lots of people getting very aggressive in their opinions one way or the other. I try not to wade out too far in those waters, there’s way too many sharks.