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   Andrew Zonenberg (azonenberg@ioc.exchange)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 21:17:48 JST Andrew Zonenberg

   An ex-coworker now at [redacted autonomous vehicle company] just tried to convince me to come work for them. Obviously I declined.

   In case it wasn't obvious to anyone else, let me just state in plain English: there is no amount of money that will get me to build self-driving cars for you. The bigger the number the harder I'll decline.

   I don't even like sharing the road with L2 ADAS equipped vehicles. The last thing I want to do is contribute to making the problem worse.

   Now, if you wanted me to work on a fully human-controlled EV with no telematics or automation, designed for repairability with a 30+ year target lifespan, and redundant sensing and actuation and triple redundant lockstep CPUs on safety-critical components like ABS? Maybe we can talk.

   But self-driving cars are probably one step above "DRM'd medical devices that stop working if you don't pay a subscription fee" on my "these should not exist and I will not lift a finger to help you create them" list.

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     Andrew Zonenberg (azonenberg@ioc.exchange)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 21:26:06 JST Andrew Zonenberg

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     I'd rather build better bitcoin miners or stock-trading FPGAs than self driving cars, and that says something.

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     Stormgren (stormgren@obsidianmoon.com)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 22:54:15 JST Stormgren

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     @azonenberg Funny, I had the same feeling about someone encouraging me to apply at a certain low-earth-orbit polluting ISP.

     Ended up going to a non-profit in R&E instead.

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     Brokar (brokar@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 22:54:42 JST Brokar

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     @azonenberg What made me really hickup regarding EV was not the self-driving capability but the fact that the manufacturer has complete control over the vehicle you're driving. There was a report of a car chase, police chasing a Tesla, and the police basically called Tesla and they then remotely turned off the engine, enabling the police capture the guy.
     I will never drive a car which can be controlled remotely and i'm not in charge. And i will never pay for a subscription to use seat heaters.

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 22:54:46 JST clacke

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     • Stormgren

     @Stormgren @azonenberg R & E = Research & Experimentation?

     It's the first time I hear the term!

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     Lars-Christian (lars@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 22:55:00 JST Lars-Christian

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     @azonenberg "Now, if you wanted me to work on a fully human-controlled EV with no telematics or automation, designed for repairability with a 30+ year target lifespan, and redundant sensing and actuation and triple redundant lockstep CPUs on safety-critical components like ABS? Maybe we can talk."

     Focus on making it affordable and creating a reliable distribution and service network, and you're describing my dream car.

     Where do we sign up to contribute to make it a reality?

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     Stormgren (stormgren@obsidianmoon.com)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 22:55:39 JST Stormgren

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     @clacke @azonenberg research and education.

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     Claudius (claudius@darmstadt.social)'s status on Sunday, 04-Aug-2024 00:51:55 JST Claudius

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     @azonenberg I'll buy the privacy respecting electric car immediately! If I needed a car tomorrow, I honestly wouldn't feel comfortable buying anything on the market right now, because of the way telemetry and logging works in all cars 😕

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