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   Nanoraptor (nanoraptor@bitbang.social)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jul-2024 18:35:50 JST Nanoraptor

   If someone says they’re “Famous In Japan” do you take that as a metaphor for being actually famous and well known in some particular well defined but not specified group - or say actually well known specifically in the country Japan?

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     Uli Kusterer (Not a kitteh) (uliwitness@chaos.social)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jul-2024 18:35:49 JST Uli Kusterer (Not a kitteh)

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     @NanoRaptor Today this furriner learned that the metaphorical use was even an option.

     For me it'd depend very much on context.

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     a libi rose (rose_alibi@post.lurk.org)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jul-2024 18:35:56 JST a libi rose

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     @NanoRaptor i have only ever used it literally or sarcastically to mean "not at all famous" or "that is some hipster bullshit". but also only ever seen/heard "big in Japan" not "famous in Japan"

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     Victor Zambrano (argonaut@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jul-2024 18:36:00 JST Victor Zambrano

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     @NanoRaptor i know it as “big in japan” and i take it as big/famous in a niche/small/tangential way. the phrase with any other country to me means big/famous in that country.

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     Jon Lasser is Hanging in there (disappearinjon@wandering.shop)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jul-2024 18:36:37 JST Jon Lasser is Hanging in there

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     @NanoRaptor if someone said “famous in…” I’d take that literally. If they said “big in…” I’d take it metaphorically.

     My grammatical expectations may be overprecise.

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     Emil "AngryAnt" Johansen (angryant@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jul-2024 18:36:47 JST Emil "AngryAnt" Johansen

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     • Tom Forsyth

     @TomF @NanoRaptor I mean... have you _heard_ the pop scene he stotted into?...

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     Tom Forsyth (tomf@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jul-2024 18:36:48 JST Tom Forsyth

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     @NanoRaptor But like a real-life parallel is David Hasselhof, who was "big in Germany" as a pop star for unfathomable reasons:
     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hasselhoff#1980s

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     Tom Forsyth (tomf@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jul-2024 18:36:49 JST Tom Forsyth

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     @NanoRaptor Usually also a side reference to this song:
     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl6u2NASUzU
     (the lyrics of the song are actually about being a drug addict)

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     Tom Forsyth (tomf@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jul-2024 18:37:02 JST Tom Forsyth

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     • Emil "AngryAnt" Johansen

     @AngryAnt @NanoRaptor Are you saying you haven't had "Wind of Change" on continuous repeat for the last 35 years?

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     Jim (mambocab@alcove.website)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jul-2024 18:37:06 JST Jim

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     @NanoRaptor I agree with the reply that "famous in" is precise, "big in" is metaphorical.

     But I'm mostly replying to share the first thing I thought of, which is Paul Gilbert hearing Nirvana on the radio and going "ah, hell, time to move to Japan":

     https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/interviews/paul_gilbert_talks_what_hed_like_to_hear_more_in_eddie_van_halens_playing_shares_opinion_on_nirvana.html (ctrl-f Japan)