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   Sean Eric Fagan (kithrup@wandering.shop)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jul-2024 06:26:51 JST Sean Eric Fagan

   Anyone have any experience with smart (or "smart") mortise locks? (While I have some good uses for phone-controlled ones, I admit mostly I just want a keypad for cleaning people, the ability to auto-lock, and ideally not have to have a damned key to open from the inside.)

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     Antiqueight (antiqueight@mastodon.ie)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jul-2024 06:26:50 JST Antiqueight

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     @kithrup We have a normal key mortice lock on a door that we got the inside replaced on and it just has a button you turn, not a key on the inside now. I have similar on my patio doors. We have a cylinder drawback on another door.

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     Antiqueight (antiqueight@mastodon.ie)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jul-2024 06:28:27 JST Antiqueight

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     @kithrup all the lift up to lock doors we have are because they have extra bars that go through multiple points in the door into the frame. Those are only triggered by the lift up.

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     Sean Eric Fagan (kithrup@wandering.shop)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jul-2024 06:28:28 JST Sean Eric Fagan

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     • Steve Atkins

     @steve My preferred lock back in the US was August, which was an add-on to existing deadbolts. Quite happy with them.

     With the yale mortice ones, do you still have to do the lift-up-to-lock, or does it just take care of it all itself?

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     Steve Atkins (steve@deliverabilit.ie)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jul-2024 06:28:30 JST Steve Atkins

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     @kithrup We have the Yale keyless smart lock. Battery operated, keypad, multiple combinations, also non-contact fobs and cards. Pretty decent.

     Be very wary of any consumer smart lock that’s not made by a lock company. They tend to have hideous security flaws.

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     Sean Eric Fagan (kithrup@wandering.shop)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jul-2024 06:48:12 JST Sean Eric Fagan

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     • Antiqueight

     @Antiqueight I just want ease and convenience, I know it's not the Irish way.

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     Antiqueight (antiqueight@mastodon.ie)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jul-2024 06:48:12 JST Antiqueight

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     @kithrup I mean, I don't entirely know what you are looking for. There are about 6 different kinds of mortice lock and a few other non mortice locks. Which is the one you think of as convenient? (My preference is the drawback night lock)

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     Antiqueight (antiqueight@mastodon.ie)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jul-2024 07:11:31 JST Antiqueight

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     @kithrup I'm pretty sure there is a lock that will do that, but I'd get a locksmiths version of the answer. Other than it being a knob (which, if it has a handle at all, I hate, you can't open a knob with your elbow).. i can't see why it would be a problem, in theory some of the nightlatches would do that, I'd think. They certainly have the general structure. But most of the actual locks i know are decades old.

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     Sean Eric Fagan (kithrup@wandering.shop)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jul-2024 07:11:32 JST Sean Eric Fagan

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     • Antiqueight

     @Antiqueight The one I think of as convenient is the setup we had in Beaverton, with an August smart lock controlling a deadbolt. The august attached to the inside meant that locking and unlocking was done by just turning a large circle, and it could lock automatically. And, of course, unlock using my iPhone.

     I know I can get an inside knob for the locking, so I don't have to rely on a key to open the door, but I also want all the rest, including automatic locking.