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   Jenniferplusplus (jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 22-Jul-2024 15:03:46 JST Jenniferplusplus

   jfc ruby has the most god awful tool chain in the fucking world

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 22-Jul-2024 15:03:45 JST Paul Cantrell

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     Apparently you’ve never tried dependency management in Python

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     phillmv (phillmv@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 22-Jul-2024 21:52:05 JST phillmv

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     • Paul Cantrell

     @inthehands @jenniferplusplus good luck managing old node versions and npm dependencies

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     Jenniferplusplus (jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 22-Jul-2024 22:45:02 JST Jenniferplusplus

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     • Paul Cantrell

     @inthehands oh I have. That is awful. Easily the worst thing about python, and it's baffling to me that it's not considered a deal breaker for large projects.

     This is worse

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jul-2024 00:48:12 JST Paul Cantrell

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     Huh! I’ve always held up gems/bundler as a “mostly just works” model for what Python should have done.

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     Jenniferplusplus (jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jul-2024 00:53:51 JST Jenniferplusplus

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     • Paul Cantrell

     @inthehands if we're just comparing package managers, then I guess gems and the bundler is closer to just working than pip is. But that ignores pythons venv solutions, and it also ignores rake which is like make but worse in every possible way, and also rails and the incredibly arcane bullshit that's involved with getting it to do anything at all. With python, once you've actually gotten your dependencies, it all just works.