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   scribe (scribe@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jul-2024 17:49:25 JST scribe

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   • Adrian Howard

   @adrianh By "Whatever", do you mean more specialisation in a technical area?

   But certainly a common anti-pattern I think, formed from a strange concoction. Juniors want to be promoted for more pay. Seniors often want someone to take over the "difficult" middle management roles. Juniors might not want someone they don't know/trust managing them, etc.

   But yeah, we don't value people skills at middle management levels a lot, from what I can see.

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     Adrian Howard (adrianh@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Jul-2024 17:49:27 JST Adrian Howard

     Am I being overly cynical by noticing this pattern happening a bunch (not all the time, but often).

     1) We need to have a career progression for folk to get better at Whatever, rather than becoming a people manager (staff/principle engineer | product | etc.)

     2) People progress to staff/principle engineer | product | etc.

     3) The staff/principle person continually complaining about more junior folk not doing what they tell them… coz they lack people management skills.