I love that mastodon is adding all these useless features while simultaneously ignoring the asinine moderation tools for its own platform...😒
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BeAware :fediverse: (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2024 04:17:29 JST BeAware :fediverse: -
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BeAware :fediverse: (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2024 04:26:57 JST BeAware :fediverse: @emaechler I have to manually see something offensive to remove it.
I can have offending posts on my instance and I'm not aware of it because I haven't *seen* it...🤦♂️
There's MUCH more automation that can be done than having to view something with my own eyes to remove it. Then if it's just a single post. I have to report that post to myself, then go to the moderation interface to view the report and finally remove the single post.
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Eric-Oliver Mächler ✅ (emaechler@mastodon.maechler.cloud)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2024 04:26:58 JST Eric-Oliver Mächler ✅ @BeAware whats wrong with the moderation tool that we have?
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BeAware :fediverse: (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2024 04:54:26 JST BeAware :fediverse: @emaechler well, since I am on a single user instance like yourself, I'm quite certain that the local timeline won't help me because I won't be reporting my own posts.
There's automation already working with other Fediverse softwares that work fine. They use the same system as automated email spam systems AFAIK. It's called "Akismet"
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Eric-Oliver Mächler ✅ (emaechler@mastodon.maechler.cloud)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2024 04:54:27 JST Eric-Oliver Mächler ✅ @BeAware yes as long no one report a post - you can not see whats going on on your instance. you can use your lokal feed to see what other people publish - is that not enough? how should your automation work? KI? like tiktok that flag normal post as bad? rofl i hope not or?
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BeAware :fediverse: (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2024 05:00:23 JST BeAware :fediverse: @emaechler well we can't add it to Mastodon, but it's already on OTHER Fediverse software.
Also, maybe I am wrong, but I was under the impression that Akismet is customizable to adapt to these types of things.
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Eric-Oliver Mächler ✅ (emaechler@mastodon.maechler.cloud)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2024 05:00:24 JST Eric-Oliver Mächler ✅ @BeAware yes i know akismet from the wordpress universum - that we can add it to mastodon - thats news to me.
but akismet ist just for spam not for bad post
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BeAware :fediverse: (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2024 05:05:27 JST BeAware :fediverse: @emaechler sure, but this would help block certain hashtags from propagating. This would at least be a start...
I didnt say it was smart, but its automated.
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Eric-Oliver Mächler ✅ (emaechler@mastodon.maechler.cloud)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2024 05:05:28 JST Eric-Oliver Mächler ✅ @BeAware you can add words to a blocklist - but it is not a smart software....
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BeAware :fediverse: (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2024 05:11:10 JST BeAware :fediverse: @emaechler he's got me blocked lmao.
And it's my own instance. I shouldn't have to see something that I don't want to see.
If I send you some ridiculous crap like CSAM, will you hold onto it so you aren't censoring me by blocking me?😬
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Eric-Oliver Mächler ✅ (emaechler@mastodon.maechler.cloud)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2024 05:11:12 JST Eric-Oliver Mächler ✅ @BeAware i dont like blacklists thats censorship and the fediverse is an open universe. if you want censor go to x :P
did you add your suggestion to the github requests? or did you tell @Gargron your idea ? perhaps you are lucky and he see this as a good idea as well ...
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BeAware :fediverse: (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2024 05:16:45 JST BeAware :fediverse: @emaechler but then I have to see it....we're going in circles.🤣
I just don't want to see certain stuff on my instance. It's that simple. I don't want it to exist in my space. That should be fair and possible. However, it's not and I find that extremely unsettling.
I am FORCED to see stuff I don't want to see, because I can't remove it without seeing it. That's wild as hell...
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Eric-Oliver Mächler ✅ (emaechler@mastodon.maechler.cloud)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2024 05:16:46 JST Eric-Oliver Mächler ✅ @BeAware aah you want block foreign posts that have been written on other instances... then you have to block the person or the whole instance....
haha you where mean to the mastodon god... thats bad :P
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BeAware :fediverse: (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2024 05:20:00 JST BeAware :fediverse: @emaechler well, my use of relays makes this harder as well. But if I don't use relays, I have to go on other instances to find content to follow.🤷♂️
It's a double edged sword that can easily be helped with Akismet or similar systems.
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Eric-Oliver Mächler ✅ (emaechler@mastodon.maechler.cloud)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2024 05:20:01 JST Eric-Oliver Mächler ✅ @BeAware thats the big difference betweet x,fb and mastodon - here you have to check and find / work for your conections. i you dont like what someone posts then you have to block him/her or you musst be carefull on who you want to follow :P
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BeAware :fediverse: (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2024 05:25:16 JST BeAware :fediverse: @emaechler I've been trying, but there's over 25,000 instances, it's been hard. Haha.
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Eric-Oliver Mächler ✅ (emaechler@mastodon.maechler.cloud)'s status on Friday, 12-Jul-2024 05:25:17 JST Eric-Oliver Mächler ✅ @BeAware i have a single instance as well as you. my run on a raspi4 and i saw that i have big trouble when i activate relay - my raspi will crash. thats why i follow 1 user per other instance ... for me thats a good solution
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