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   Longhairedgit (lhgmk2@mas.to)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:30:27 JST Longhairedgit

   It's election day in the UK. The UK has odd rules about certain news hitting the media before the vote, so there's only yesterday's poll projection stuff to go on, even though many postal votes are in well ahead of time. The morning will be made up of old op eds, the last of the polls, and pointless shots of random buildings with signs saying " vote here" on them. The odd friendly dog etc. weather is ok so turnout should be good relative to politicians being oligarch stooges.

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     Longhairedgit (lhgmk2@mas.to)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:30:25 JST Longhairedgit

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     This is not to say I concur with the exit polls entirely, only if Britain has really excelled itself in tactical voting this time round can they be true. Lots of conservatives vote autonomously, and most over the age of fifty will do that regardless of the sky being on fire. Starmer is a wildly unpopular and mistrusted leader of the labour party. This is about the youngun's and genz punishing Tories. Which they will.

     So a landslide yes, but not a truly historic one. It'll be less extreme.

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     Longhairedgit (lhgmk2@mas.to)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:30:25 JST Longhairedgit

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     Libdems will probably do ok, especially in the south where Labour conceded tactically so they're almost sure to come third. If they come second that'll shake the foundations, because that gives massive majority rule to centrists to a country that if we're honest is traditionally more conservative.

     Tbh though, shift right is so prevalent, this could be considered consistency. A Tory voter of 1980 could vote modern labour without moving on the left/right scale at all.

     Jay Baker and Aral Balkan repeated this.
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     Longhairedgit (lhgmk2@mas.to)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:30:25 JST Longhairedgit

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     My real hope for the election, other than devastation of Tory ranks is the greens gain more seats than expected, because they'll be the only party pushing left.

     Starmers labour couldn't landslide without oligarch approval. So tbh the Tories will win the election, they'll just be called labour, the actual Tories, who are just criminals, will head back to the hedge fund mansions to influence events from afar.

     I also hope Corbyn wins his seat. The other guy is an NHS predator.

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     Longhairedgit (lhgmk2@mas.to)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:30:26 JST Longhairedgit

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     Foreign onlookers may be thrilled and astounded to learn that Britain's fptp system is broadly a fucked up mess of crucial seats to be won, and that voting in the UK has nothing to do with how many people vote for a party, we absolutely do not have proportional representation, which is why Nigel Farage can get lots of points on fuck all votes, the libdems can't get points on far more votes, and that even a grotesquely huge labour landslide could be gained from winning 35% of the vote.

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     Longhairedgit (lhgmk2@mas.to)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:30:26 JST Longhairedgit

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     Americans may have a sense of that sort of thing, you know electoral colleges, and different states doing different stuff to prevent California dominating the politics of some dudes living in a population of 20 in the middle of a desert, except in Britain we mostly do all live pretty similar lives, finances notwithstanding, and can mostly hit each other with thrown rocks across most of the nation.

     So yeah, it's broken.

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     Longhairedgit (lhgmk2@mas.to)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jul-2024 21:30:27 JST Longhairedgit

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     The actual vote count starts when polls close, so in small areas that could be near close of business, others won't get cracking until after 8 pm, so those wanting to watch the devastation live will probably be up until the wee small hours, though let's face facts, the wrinting will be on the wall by about 11pm.