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   Rabbit Cohen (bathyspherehat@mastodon.online)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 07:11:38 JST Rabbit Cohen

   There's something that's been on my mind about antisemitism and protests, but I'm not sure what there is to actually be done about it.

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     Rabbit Cohen (bathyspherehat@mastodon.online)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 07:11:38 JST Rabbit Cohen

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     Ok, so here's what's on my mind: it used to be, not so long ago, that we (leftists) would say things like "If you've got a table with one Nazi and ten people sitting with them, that's a table with eleven Nazis." Similar things were said about antisemites and other bigots more generally. This was used to condemn a lot of non-leftists, especially right and center right folks, who weren't themselves Nazis, but who allowed them at their rallies and such.

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     Rabbit Cohen (bathyspherehat@mastodon.online)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 07:11:38 JST Rabbit Cohen

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     Then October 7th and everything that followed happened, and we've started seeing some really awful people at pro-Palestine protests. It's not everyone. I don't think it's even most people. But there are some blatant antisemites saying blatantly antisemitic things at pro-Palestine rallies.

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     Rabbit Cohen (bathyspherehat@mastodon.online)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 07:11:38 JST Rabbit Cohen

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     Listen: I'm not sure what to do about that. Protests aren't always well organised, and even when they are, it's not easy to keep people out. But I don't think I'm alone among Jews in saying that I feel kind of betrayed. The whole "table with eleven Nazis" idea has been replaced with "Well, we can't be responsible for everyone."

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     Church of Jeff (jeffowski@mastodon.world)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 07:22:10 JST Church of Jeff

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     @BathysphereHat — there are shitty people on both sides of this. You can’t really say you’re on Netanyahu’s side just like there are lots of Palestinians that aren’t with Hamas.
     The confusion is rooted in all or nothing rhetoric of being with or against “Israel” when it has everything to do with siding with innocent people that shouldn’t be killed, tortured, maimed, starved, left exposed to the weather, regardless of their skin color or nationality.

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     Rabbit Cohen (bathyspherehat@mastodon.online)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 07:22:11 JST Rabbit Cohen

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     It seems to me like a lot of leftists never really believed it. They saw Nazis as a convenient rhetorical device to use to condemn their political opponents, not as people who do real harm to marginalised people, particularly Jews.

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     Rabbit Cohen (bathyspherehat@mastodon.online)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 07:22:11 JST Rabbit Cohen

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     Not gonna lie, that stings.