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   Ludovic Courtès (civodul@toot.aquilenet.fr)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jun-2024 22:38:08 JST Ludovic Courtès

   Bad news for #bootstrapping: Rust is likely going to be required to build #QEMU
   https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/ZnmkN2PL3r-2sxqe@redhat.com/

   And it’s already required for virtiofsd:
   https://virtio-fs.gitlab.io/howto-qemu.html

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     Ludovic Courtès (civodul@toot.aquilenet.fr)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jun-2024 22:38:04 JST Ludovic Courtès

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     The more I see Rust spread, but more I think there’s room for an alternate computing vision, one that doesn’t give up on managing complexity, that improves security and safety, but also supports hackability by the non-professionals.

     Linux/Rust vs. Hurd/Guile?

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     Ludovic Courtès (civodul@toot.aquilenet.fr)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jun-2024 22:38:06 JST Ludovic Courtès

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     With all its benefits over C/C++ in terms of memory safety, Rust still depends on itself to be built*, and Rust’s packaging approach is a nightmare for distros of a magnitude close to that of npm.

     * This can be worked around but it doesn’t come for free: https://guix.gnu.org/en/blog/2018/bootstrapping-rust/

     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: likes this.
     Abhiseck Paira :gnu: :gnuhurd: repeated this.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jun-2024 22:11:34 JST 翠星石

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     @civodul It's bad news for having a decent VM and emulator - Rust just sucks.