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   CJ Paloma Likes Longer Days (cjpaloma@mas.to)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jun-2024 02:36:36 JST CJ Paloma Likes Longer Days

   I think most of us assume -often quite unconsciously- that we really are objective, and so become overly confident we can decide what is good bullshit and what is harmful bullshit.

   IOW: Maybe sometimes, by true accidents of birth, we are simply in places where it's just not easy to hear folks yelling "Get off my foot!" because lots of people around us are yelling other things about how cool that same critter or thing is (the one causing unseen damage).

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     CJ Paloma Likes Longer Days (cjpaloma@mas.to)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jun-2024 02:36:35 JST CJ Paloma Likes Longer Days

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     so this sort of begs the question of -what- we listen for.

     If we assume others are safe/secure…and we go about mostly just listening for profits, or notions of "progress", assuming no one is getting hurt…we simply aren't going to be as ready to comprehend issues of safety/security as easily.

     OTOH, if we train ourselves to listen carefully to ensure no one's getting harmed… we can more easily save ourselves guilt and not utter things like "no one could have known this would happen"

     Aral Balkan repeated this.
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     CJ Paloma Likes Longer Days (cjpaloma@mas.to)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jun-2024 02:36:35 JST CJ Paloma Likes Longer Days

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     Quite honestly, for EVERY social problem we face, some people knew and were loudly saying "Watch out: this is what is very likely to happen!!".

     ANNND, the real reason the issue even became a problem is because too many people 1) never heard them,** 2) were encouraged to ignore them,** or 3) felt threatened and even helped to drown out the words.**

     But like in every horror movie, plenty in the audience WERE saying "Don't open that door!"

     ** social inequities CREATE these possibilities