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   Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2024 00:52:39 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
   > Arch Linux distributing an alpha (and broken) version of libtool as the only version
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     Palaiologos (kspalaiologos@fedi.absturztau.be)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2024 01:15:14 JST Palaiologos

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     @lanodan That happened with Ubuntu for the longest time in late 2022. They were shipping a version that was broken on Macs. For my CI pipelines I had to patch it.
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     Palaiologos (kspalaiologos@fedi.absturztau.be)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2024 01:20:36 JST Palaiologos

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     @lanodan Full story: https://github.com/kspalaiologos/bzip3/issues/81
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2024 01:23:30 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @kspalaiologos Yeah I've seen similar things quite often.
     Reminds me of why I'm glad Gentoo easily allows to regenerate autoconf/libtool stuff (and also why I sometimes pick VCS tarballs rather than dist tarballs).
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2024 03:51:50 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @kspalaiologos Autotools even depends on perl.
     And pretty sure in most distros you'd end up with circular dependencies.
     
     Like https://github.com/fosslinux/live-bootstrap/blob/master/parts.rst#61autoconf-252 has a stupidly long chain to get to recent autotools.
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     Palaiologos (kspalaiologos@fedi.absturztau.be)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2024 03:51:52 JST Palaiologos

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     @lanodan There are many things that I don't like about autotools, this is one of them. Why would *anyone* want a dist package?
     
     But, I guess, nobody should have an obligation of having autotools/automake/libtool/m4 installed just to build a C project.